Hell has frozen over.

[Joinfortmill]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/04/politics/pence-january-6-trump/index.html

Pence says 'Trump is wrong' to say then-vice president had the right to overturn 2020 election

Former Vice President Mike Pence called out his former boss by name on Friday, saying that "President (Donald) Trump is wrong" in claiming that Pence had the right to overturn the 2020 election on January 6, 2021.

Pence warned against conservatives who continue to insist the vice president can alter an election, and said it could be a problematic position for Republicans in the next presidential contest.

"Under the Constitution, I had no right to change the outcome of our election..."

[samnsara]

1. with all thats coming out about trumps criminal behavior

..im sure pence was finally having a come to baby jesus meeting....

[Siwsan]

2. I wonder how long before tfg issues one of his 'statements'

It should be spectacular.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

18. Yes, it will be one for the ages.

[no_hypocrisy]

3. Next move: defend Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

Start a movement, Mike!

[dchill]

26. Exercise your underused ethics muscles!

[grantcart]

4. Don't know about that but just saw a 400 pound pig fly over at 80 feet

[deminks]

5. Who stuck a broom up there and gave him a spine?

It won't last. He eventually did the correct thing on Jan 6, but not before he went to Dan Quayle and a dozen others looking for answers.

I want to give him the benefit of doubt, but I can't. I just can't. Took him over a year to denounce it. Shame on him.

[Caliman73]

6. That is a hell of an assumption.

"putting an end to Trump's futile efforts to subvert American democracy..."

Pence told the Federalist Society that he didn't have the authority to overturn the results. He just affirmed the facts. The article makes it sound as if he did something heroic.

The assumption that Trump will stop trying to litigate this and overturn the results is also presumptive. As if Pence coming out and meekly saying something to a room full of people that probably want Trump out of the way too (because he is mask off), would actually change anything. Trump isn't going to stop. He'll very predictably go after Pence, and anyone else who actually admits the reality.

NOW, if Pence testifies (truthfully) that Trump asked him to overturn the election illegally, then I will admit that Pence did something mildly heroic.

[TreasonousBastard]

8. Well, around now, a gop bigshot just doing his job is heroic.

[Caliman73]

17. I never want to give them that "benefit of the doubt".

I refuse to set the bar that low.

Pence is gearing up to run for President. We do not need a weasel (and I apologize to weasels for the comparison) like him anywhere near the White House again.

[monkeyman1]

21. just think , 800 chump's got felony records now , for donny do nothing ?

[Caliman73]

23. No one is ever completely immune to that type of influence...

You do have to wonder though, why these people chose to do something so stupid at the behest of a man who has ABSOLUTELY NO LOYALTY to anyone but himself. Like literally, I think Trump would throw anyone, including Ivanka, under the bus to save his skin. He is without any redeeming qualities.

These people put themselves out for a total scumbag.

[Mazeltov Cocktail]

24. I'm curious exactly what kind of bus republicans drive...

Given the sheer number of people thrown under this bus on any given day, it must be roughly the size of an aircraft carrier...

[getagrip_already]

7. putting an end?

Only the grim reaper will put an end to tfg's lies. But of course, the lies will carry on without him.

Pence's statement is mildly symbolic, but what he needs to do is attack tfg personally.

If he said "Let's face a truth. No matter what you think about the actions of congress, the laws passed, and the impact on the court's direction, everyone MUST realize he is personally corrupt, mentally deficient, mortally bereft, a traitor to the USA and an embarrassment to our allies; and probably the worst sitting president the us ever saw (bar none)."

Then he might have started an end. But what he said was meaningless.

[dwayneb]

10. Pence is just another face of American Fascism

We can't kid ourselves, this guy is ready willing and able to gut our Constitution in order to implement a Theocracy.

Indiana just keeps birthing these guys.

[drmeow]

9. The date of the article is January 7, 2021 nt

[Joinfortmill]

11. I had technical difficulties. updated. Remember, Hell just froze.

[UCmeNdc]

12. K&R Why would anyone want to remain in the Republican Party?

Tell your GOP friends and family members, just to get out and leave the crazy behind you.

[Skittles]

16. hatred of "those" people is what drives them

hatred and fear - there is ZERO loyalty to America

fucking cowards, all of them

[LetMyPeopleVote]

13. Has TFG reacted to this yet?

Link to tweet

[Emile]

14. He will. TFG has a fast mouth.

If TFG could run as fast as his mouth, he would be an Olympic runner.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

27. I love this response from TFG

Link to tweet

[Skittles]

15. what else can he say?

the truth is, that POS *KNEW* it would never work - this time.....he did the only thing he COULD do, and now he is saying the only thing he CAN say

[Meowmee]

19. He wants to run himself

[Martin68]

20. Pence has no principles except to cover his own ass.

[Butterflylady]

22. Anybody who has a brain and knows anything about

The United States constitution knows that Pence only had a ceremonial duty that day. Nothing more.

Oh, never mind, were talking about idiot morons called republicans.

[Captain Zero]

25. .pence gets credit for seeking other opinions

If he only listened to Trump he would have done it. Instead he listened to Dan Quayle and my guess is possibly other Republicans who were being realistic and responsible about how extremely radical and dangerous to democracy Trump was being. And is.

Do we agree with Pence on policy or issues? No. But it does take courage, both Personal and political to stand up to Trump because he is so awful. He will extort, smear, threaten, and attack anyone who stands up to him. And on this very important single point, Pence did. On this one point every single American who understands and truly values American democracy needs to have Pence's back.

Do we think he waited too long,? Maybe. But he finally fucking did it. So I'll give him a handclap on this one very important stand, spoken loud and clear.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

28. How about we all chip in and buy Mike Pence a cake?

Link to tweet