Trump destroying official Whitehouse documents is a slam dunk indictment.

[fightforfreedom]

The committee has the smoking guns with Trumps fingerprints on them. They have the documents he tore up. They have the witnesses who watched Trump tear up the documents and then taped them back together. They have witnesses who saw Trump destroy documents by burning them. This is a big deal.

They have witnesses who I believe would testify they warned Trump time and time again, tearing up, destroying, burning, Whitehouse documents is a federal crime. There is no way Garland cannot prosecute this crime. Not doing so would allow future presidents, staff to destroy records at will.

Trump has no defense in this crime. He can't claim ignorance, he can't blame other people.

One way or another Trump is going to be indicted. I am now 100% convinced.

[Lunabell]

1. I'm not convinced.

Seems like nobody has the cajones to do anything. The rich and powerful protect their own.

[secondwind]

8. They are doing everything. You just don't know all of it yet.

Donald Trump is finished.

[Lunabell]

26. Well, I certainly hope you have insider knowledge and are correct.

But, call me a skeptic. I dont believe this will happen. Too many powerful rich men in this country.

[hamsterjill]

27. I'm right there with you.

I will believe it when I see it.

All of the ones screaming about people on DU (like me) who feel the DOJ is doing nothing don’t know any more than the rest of us as to what IS actually being done. They’re all just hoping that something comes down soon.

While I would love to be wrong and will gleefully apologize if I am proven wrong, I don’t think I will ever see Trump in a courtroom, much less in a jail cell.

[AngryOldDem]

2. You would think so....

[USALiberal]

3. Way too Optimistic! Nt

[fightforfreedom]

7. When it comes to indicting Trump, I have now moved past optimistic.

He is going to be indicted. On conviction I remain optimistic.

[MLAA]

4. Yep!

Below is one of several statutes than can apply. The one below does not require proof of the value of the taken item. Those statutes that require proof of value have higher sentences.


18 U.S. Code §2071. Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally provides:

(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States….

[BlueSky3]

6. Wow.

I’ve been hearing there’s no consequence for violating this law, but there it is in black and white. Is it just not enforced?

[MLAA]

9. Or maybe there just hasn't been such egregious examples before that cried out for prosecution

[True Blue American]

18. Trump actually stole letters

That Obama wrote. He tried to steal artifacts from the Embassy while everyone else was at Normandy.

I wonder if the Queen has checked her jewelry yet? A sleazy con man and petty thief lived in the Whitehouse for 4 years, then slunk out of town like the cowardly grifter he is.

[bearsfootball516]

5. You're far more optimistic than me.

[JohnSJ]

10. But will they do anything about it?

[Johnny2X2X]

11. This is political

Trump won't face indictment for something like this because the public doesn't care one bit about it.

[fightforfreedom]

12. A grand jury will care.

[HUAJIAO]

13. A grand jury is selected from the public.

[uponit7771]

20. The DOJ doesn't care about what the public thinks, look at the Mosby case and the NAACP and a number

... of black leaders supporting Mosby a black woman.

That case can blow up in the DOJs face big time seeing the charges are VERY dubious because CARE ACT qualifications were meant to be lose

[Mr. Ected]

14. Although I agree wholeheartedly that crimes were perpetrated and ignorance is not a defense

Standing alone, it doesn't rise to the level of "lock him up".

In conjunction with a few dozen obstruction charges, though, and incitement of a seditious insurrection and election fraud and, and, and, it becomes another nail in the coffin.

[fightforfreedom]

17. Exactly.

It will be added to other charges in the indictment.

[uponit7771]

15. But ... but ... investigate and shit

[Emile]

16. So is orchestrating an insurrection on live TV, still no arrest.

My patience is wearing thin!

[Stuart G]

19. Time will tell...Over all, Time is not on Trump's side...unless he dies soon.

New York Atty General will get him over time. Avoiding taxes is a crime. Is that true?..
..........My guess is that Trump avoided all state taxes....not a few...but ....ALL

....because he thinks he can get away with anything. Now wait a minute..................just a minute,...........?


What did they get Al Capone on?.......Does anyone know?.........Did Al Capone go to jail?...enough said..

[Hoyt]

21. Jeeez. Do you really think tearing up documents and leaving the pieces will get trump?

[Lettuce Be]

22. They knew he was doing this when he was doing it. No one seemed to care

Rules are not for Mr. T

[MissMillie]

23. Nothing ever seems to be a "slam dunk" when it comes to TDDFG

(The Disgraced, Defeated, Former Guy)

His call w/ Zelensky was a slam dunk too. There's just far too many people that refuse to hold him accountable for his crimes.

[FakeNoose]

24. The White House staffers KNEW it was wrong, they knew the documents had to be preserved

They couldn't stop Chump from tearing up the memos and other documents. What they DID was they saved all the little bits and pieces and turned them in in ziplock baggies. Somebody in the archives section had to piece them together.

Same with the shredded documents, somebody had to piece them together.

[Baked Potato]

25. This crime is below putting the wrong plastic in the Recycle bin. Nt

[kentuck]

28. But...but....

Hillary's emails...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

29. From Neal Katyal

[sarcasmo]

30. Trump has an Army of lawyers, nothing is a slam dunk.