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Tue Feb 8, 2022, 02:52 PM

Putin's use of crude language reveals a lot about his worldview

(CNN) Russian President Vladimir Putin set Russian media abuzz Tuesday following his news conference with French President Emmanuel Macron. The subject of Putin's remarks? The Minsk agreements, a ceasefire protocol signed by Ukraine and Russia in 2015, and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky could abide by them. But it was Putin's coarse language, rather than the technical details of the truce that generated the most clicks in Russia.


"As for the Minsk agreements, are they alive and do they have any prospect or not?" Putin said. "I believe that there is simply no other alternative. I repeat once again, in Kyiv, they either say that they will comply, or they say that this will destroy their country. The incumbent president recently stated that he does not like a single point of these Minsk agreements. 'Like it or don't like it, it's your duty, my beauty.' They must be fulfilled. It won't work otherwise."

For starters, the talk about forcing a "beauty" lie back and take abuse is coming from the same person who, exactly five years ago, decriminalized forms of domestic violence.

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Once again, Putin has given the world a sense of his soul. The Kremlin leader's position on the Minsk agreement is not new. But his crude vernacular -- addressing Zelensky in condescending and gendered language -- left some Russian journalists wondering openly if the president was, in essence, making a crude joke.


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It's not the first time Putin has used such language. One of his most famous quotes dates back to 1999, when he was still prime minister, when he vowed to crush Chechen separatists, saying, "If they're on the toilet, we will waste them out in the outhouse." The same applies to the current crisis. When he discards the diplomatic language, Putin speaks that we may see him.

read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/europe/putin-coarse-remarks-ukraine-intl/index.html

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EleanorR Feb 2022 #1
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WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #3
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EleanorR Feb 2022 #6
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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Tue Feb 8, 2022, 02:58 PM

1. Apparently it's from lyrics about necrophilia?

Absolutely revolting.


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Response to EleanorR (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 8, 2022, 03:01 PM

2. Revolting is right!!!!

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Response to EleanorR (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 8, 2022, 03:08 PM

3. No, it's not. The phrase is used in the song. But "like it or not, _____, my beauty!" is a phrase

that's been around since before the song.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 8, 2022, 03:11 PM

4. dont let facts spoil a good rant!! Or a Twitter "fact" lmao...

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 8, 2022, 03:16 PM

5. Don't get me wrong, it's a shitty phrase often used in bigoted contextst. But necrophilia? Lulz.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 8, 2022, 03:38 PM

6. From Business Insider

President Vladimir Putin quoted Soviet-era punk-rock lyrics about rape and necrophilia to demonstrate what Russia wants from Ukraine.

Putin made the comment in a press conference Monday following a five-hour meeting with Emmanuel Macron, in which the French president tried to convince Putin to find a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine crisis.


https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-macron-meeting-quote-obscene-lyrics-show-russia-ukraine-demands-2022-2

And Julia Davis is a columnist for the Daily Beast and respected Russian Media Analyst.

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Response to EleanorR (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 8, 2022, 05:21 PM

7. "Like it or not," etc., is as much a lyric about rape and necrophilia as "For Whom the Bell Tolls"

was written by Metallica.

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