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WINDSOR, Ontario (AP) -- Canadian police move in to remove protesters at bridge border crossing ... (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2022 OP
Meh, they look like Tim Horton's security guards. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #1
Whut? They cain't do that! Them people ain't black! n/t brewens Feb 2022 #2
Good. Suspend their CDL (or whatever it's called in Canada). livetohike Feb 2022 #3
fliers Slammer Feb 2022 #19
Imagine if BLM had shut down DC for five days by blockading the district. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #47
Impound! Impound! LW1977 Feb 2022 #4
Went to bed dreaming last night that I'd wake up to find KS Toronado Feb 2022 #31
This isn't about truckers, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #5
Yes, on the macro level it is anti-democratic sanatanadharma Feb 2022 #10
Yup. Cut through the M$M Kabuki and that is what one will find. Tommymac Feb 2022 #16
Heard on the CBC NEws this morning that luvtheGWN Feb 2022 #43
ditto EOM tiredtoo Feb 2022 #22
Exactly right. Farmer-Rick Feb 2022 #28
Wow. This is happening right now. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #6
They were warned... Beachnutt Feb 2022 #7
But but what about free dumb? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #8
Uh officer is it ok if I leave now ? Beachnutt Feb 2022 #9
Long overdue. SergeStorms Feb 2022 #11
I had evil visions this week..... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2022 #24
Wow! SergeStorms Feb 2022 #32
As I said Serge, that was just my vision during a spell of anger.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2022 #69
The height of selfishness. SergeStorms Feb 2022 #70
You have that exactly right, Serge. One day at a time (ODAT) for me..... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2022 #72
You as well, KY. SergeStorms Feb 2022 #73
my cousins do HD towing Mopar151 Feb 2022 #25
Majority of the terrorists protesters are not truckers . . . Lovie777 Feb 2022 #12
I can't believe this action isn't violent. They didn't mess around...police/snipers everywhere. Frustratedlady Feb 2022 #13
I was a child during Vietnam war protests Dave says Feb 2022 #14
I think it all goes back to Russia and seeded disinformation. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #17
Bingo. SergeStorms Feb 2022 #34
I agree about Russia, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #36
Yes. Which doesn't even make sense, because Fox has legally Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #39
Precisely n/t malaise Feb 2022 #71
How many Russians were insurgents on Jan 6? malaise Feb 2022 #59
I believe you will find gab13by13 Feb 2022 #33
I agree. Chaos allows them cover to grab more power and more money. Midnight Writer Feb 2022 #57
Protests during the Vietnam War were much worse. Farmer-Rick Feb 2022 #35
One does wonder why the timing of this luvtheGWN Feb 2022 #46
Follow the money if you can. Millions donated in 2-3 days? Ain't grassroots organizing. 58Sunliner Feb 2022 #67
CNN, MSNBC Beachnutt Feb 2022 #15
Nah, that's what they want, one of their stooges to be Ashli Babbittized Tarc Feb 2022 #20
You do have a point there. Beachnutt Feb 2022 #27
I fought the Law and the Law Won! True Blue American Feb 2022 #49
Damned shame Slammer Feb 2022 #18
It's freezing there. And forecast to become much colder by tomorrow. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #21
Oh my sweet summer child. -6C is by no means freezing by Canadian standards. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #52
Exactly, those guys are going to be out in that weather for hours. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #58
I grew up on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and then moved to Arizona in my late teens. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #62
Bridges also tend to have wind Sympthsical Feb 2022 #65
Good point. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #68
The mask mandate is still in effect in Ontario... Spazito Feb 2022 #60
My hero Dudley multigraincracker Feb 2022 #23
You gotta have THE ORIGINAL! BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #56
That Sean O'Shea account says the trucks have pretty much cleared out blogslug Feb 2022 #26
They're all slithering away Beachnutt Feb 2022 #29
Of Course They Have ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #30
This was funded by American oligarchs. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #37
That Was My Point ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #41
I suspect those oligarchs BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #54
They should go ahead and fine ringleaders Captain Zero Feb 2022 #38
Seems Reasonable ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #42
You can bet that they all Beachnutt Feb 2022 #40
Also, the American ones (or unAmerican ones) will have to pass through customs at the border. halfulglas Feb 2022 #44
Tiffany Cross just said, True Blue American Feb 2022 #45
Those people caused a lot of grief, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #48
More auto plants are shutting down. Putin's plan is working thanks to duped idiots. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author tavernier Feb 2022 #51
If they want to protest NowISeetheLight Feb 2022 #53
Those truckers Traildogbob Feb 2022 #55
At least take off her blindfold. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #61
Good point!!! Traildogbob Feb 2022 #64
Can I just say it's good to read they brought the snipers out. intheflow Feb 2022 #63
I'll bet that got their attention XanaDUer2 Feb 2022 #66

livetohike

(23,984 posts)
3. Good. Suspend their CDL (or whatever it's called in Canada).
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 08:49 AM
Feb 2022

There has to be some penalty involved.

Slammer

(714 posts)
19. fliers
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:33 AM
Feb 2022

The police handed out fliers yesterday notifying the truckers that what they're doing is newly permanently against the law with up to $100,000 fine and a year in jail. Probably Canadian dollars.

It also said that they were considering revoking their license to drive commercially.

KS Toronado

(23,060 posts)
31. Went to bed dreaming last night that I'd wake up to find
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:08 AM
Feb 2022

Police arrested every trucker and towed their trucks to an impound lot in Alaska, charging them $100 a mile.

gab13by13

(31,238 posts)
5. This isn't about truckers,
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 08:57 AM
Feb 2022

isn't about vaccines, isn't about masks, it's about anti-democracy.

sanatanadharma

(4,076 posts)
10. Yes, on the macro level it is anti-democratic
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:10 AM
Feb 2022

On the micro level it is some number of mini-me,me,me,me's, saying my POV, my needs, my desires, my ignorance trumps yours and "yours' will be ignored.
That is anti-democratic selfishness.

luvtheGWN

(1,343 posts)
43. Heard on the CBC NEws this morning that
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:39 AM
Feb 2022

the vast majority of donors to the "Christian" fundraising site were all linked to a poor woman in Missouri. Her email had been hacked and several front orgs with names like "Protect Our freedom" and others like it were all using her address. And they were from the US and many other parts of the globe -- especially east European countries.

SergeStorms

(19,967 posts)
11. Long overdue.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:11 AM
Feb 2022

Bring on the heavy machinery to remove and impound the trucks. I'd say a fine of $1,000 should cover towing and labor costs.

They have to make it hurt enough so this crap never happens again.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
24. I had evil visions this week.....
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:43 AM
Feb 2022

of Army tanks using huge chains to drag those rigs away with transmissions left in gear and dumping them in the Detroit river.

Forgive me Donkey for I have sinned...... .......

---------------

Serge, just noticed this in an article in The Guardian....

A judge on Friday ordered protesters at the Ambassador Bridge over the US-Canadian border to end the blockade that has now entered a sixth day.

On Friday, the Ontario premier, Doug Ford, declared a state of emergency in the province that will allow his cabinet to impose $100,000 fines and up to one year in jail as punishments against people who continue to illegally block roads, bridges, walkways and other critical infrastructure.

Chief Justice Geoffrey Morawetz of the Ontario superior court issued an injunction giving protesters blocking cross-border traffic until 7pm Friday to clear out. However, the deadline came and went.

Windsor police immediately warned that anyone blocking the streets could be subject to arrest and their vehicles could be seized.

KY

SergeStorms

(19,967 posts)
32. Wow!
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:08 AM
Feb 2022

They're being a lot more punitive than I would have been, but they certainly have the right idea.

Make it hurt and this crap will stop.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
69. As I said Serge, that was just my vision during a spell of anger....
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:19 PM
Feb 2022

over these antivaxxers. It's pure selfish and self-centered behavior helped along by right-wing corporate media and Russian trolls. They won't drag those trucks into the river but let's hope they impound a large number for a very long time.

Can't recall anything else in my 74 years to match this degree of a very large group of people not giving a damn about their fellow Americans. Obviously, there's a substantial group of Canadians with similar beliefs.

I cannot imagine what will happen if we ever go to war again.......

SergeStorms

(19,967 posts)
70. The height of selfishness.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 05:01 PM
Feb 2022

The country is so polarized now I don't know if it can ever be put back together.

Humpty-Trumpty pushed everyone off the wall, and you I agree Putin had a hand in that. Of course TFG was so eager to get his tacky name on a hotel in Red Square, he would have done anything - and did - to please his buddy Putin. Small consolation that TFG'S dream will probably never come to fruition.

You're one year older than myself, KY, and I don't know about you, but I'm glad I'm closer to the finish line than the start line. I feel bad for my children and grandchildren. They're going to have to sort this mess out somehow.

Enjoy the weekend, buddy, but every day is a weekend day for us now, right?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,766 posts)
72. You have that exactly right, Serge. One day at a time (ODAT) for me.....
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:42 AM
Feb 2022

and I hope I remember to show some gratitude every day. Thank goodness for animals, nature, children, music and chocolate....

You and I remember the days before internet and globalization of everything, most businesses were local, America made most everything we needed, people acted like ladies and gentlemen and gross vulgarity was rare, and politics was only discussed around election time. All I know is that folks were much more unselfish, serene and content.

I just have one grandchild and like you, worry about her future. Further divisiveness and climate change will make for a rough ride.

Regarding Putin's internet troops, one event stays vivid in my mind from the 2015 presidential election period. Our government internet sleuths proved without a doubt that his infamous trolls were responsible for starting race riot in Texas, just by planting false and inflammatory shit on popular Twitter and Facebook sites. Seems that our unfettered freedoms are killing us and destroying community and democracy, yet some very selfish idiots are blockading international trade over getting a vaccine no more risky than a measles or flu jab.

Enough of my Sunday ranting. I'm grateful for DU and to have laundry to finish for me and my son today.....

Have a good, peaceful Valentines week and take care of yourself......

SergeStorms

(19,967 posts)
73. You as well, KY.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:22 PM
Feb 2022

Yeah, the memories of a kinder, more civil country. That seems like a million miles away right now. Have a wonderful day, amigo.

Mopar151

(10,344 posts)
25. my cousins do HD towing
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:48 AM
Feb 2022

Better triple that cost! Depending on how badly the trucks have been "Locked up", driveshafts have to be removed, brakes "backed off" or "aired up" from another truck. Trucks will have to be impounded somewhere.


The occupants of the truck need to be removed, before this happens, or it's demo derby time.

Lovie777

(21,765 posts)
12. Majority of the terrorists protesters are not truckers . . .
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:13 AM
Feb 2022

many are from the USA gunning to oust the present Canadian Government.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
13. I can't believe this action isn't violent. They didn't mess around...police/snipers everywhere.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:14 AM
Feb 2022

In seeing so much violence erupting all over the world, this has to be internationally incited.

In my lifetime, I've never seen so many disruptions/arguments/battles going on at one time as we have now.

Is this Russia or China related?

Dave says

(5,330 posts)
14. I was a child during Vietnam war protests
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:22 AM
Feb 2022

At least, when people marched against the Vietnamese war, it was against an unjust war that was killing hundreds of thousand of Vietnamese and 58,000 American soldiers.

The trucker protests are against being asked to wear a mask and get vaccinated so hundreds of thousands more are unlikely to die.

We live in an upside down world.

Scrivener7

(58,338 posts)
17. I think it all goes back to Russia and seeded disinformation.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:29 AM
Feb 2022

And then their paid lackeys in each country acts as a megaphone.

SergeStorms

(19,967 posts)
34. Bingo.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:12 AM
Feb 2022

I believe you're correct. All of these "protests" didn't arise organically. Someone has been stirring the flames of unrest, and there's always one country on the top of that short list: Russia.

gab13by13

(31,238 posts)
36. I agree about Russia,
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:14 AM
Feb 2022

but Russian disinformation isn't even needed now that Fox and others are pushing to take down our democracy. They have taken Russia's side in the Ukraine conflict. He have own very own home grown anti-democratic "news networks" pushing to end our democracy, protected by freedom of the press.

Scrivener7

(58,338 posts)
39. Yes. Which doesn't even make sense, because Fox has legally
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:17 AM
Feb 2022

been defined as not press but entertainment.

It's hard to know what is the chicken and what is the egg. TFG fawns over Putin so Fox does. Putin owns TFG (I am convinced). Fox was here long before any of it creating this bizarro right wing culture.

Makes me dizzy.

malaise

(292,807 posts)
59. How many Russians were insurgents on Jan 6?
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:09 AM
Feb 2022

Many of the RWs are homegrown American white supremacists. Do they ahve support from RUssia and other RW in Europe - yes.

What is going on in Canada is a trial run for the US - financed by the same folks

gab13by13

(31,238 posts)
33. I believe you will find
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:11 AM
Feb 2022

this has been funded my American oligarchs. This was practice for doing it here.

Midnight Writer

(25,145 posts)
57. I agree. Chaos allows them cover to grab more power and more money.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:06 AM
Feb 2022

As long as we are fighting with each other we won't fight with them.

"Planting seeds of mistrust in a garden of assholes."

Farmer-Rick

(12,480 posts)
35. Protests during the Vietnam War were much worse.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:13 AM
Feb 2022

Protests during the Republican Great Depression were pretty bad too.

These are really kind of small protests. Just that they get a ton of media attention. If they were fighting for better wages, you would probably only see 1 or 2 media outlets covering them.

The corporate media never cover war protests or strikes like this.

luvtheGWN

(1,343 posts)
46. One does wonder why the timing of this
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:41 AM
Feb 2022

coincides with Russia's buildup towards an invasion of Ukraine......

58Sunliner

(6,273 posts)
67. Follow the money if you can. Millions donated in 2-3 days? Ain't grassroots organizing.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:46 PM
Feb 2022

I'm going to bet Russia.

Tarc

(10,597 posts)
20. Nah, that's what they want, one of their stooges to be Ashli Babbittized
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:37 AM
Feb 2022

So they can be martyred for the cause.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
21. It's freezing there. And forecast to become much colder by tomorrow.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:38 AM
Feb 2022

I’d be wearing a face mask too.

Jedi Guy

(3,419 posts)
52. Oh my sweet summer child. -6C is by no means freezing by Canadian standards.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:57 AM
Feb 2022
For this time of year that temperature is positively balmy. There have been times over the last few weeks when wind chills have dropped to nearly -30C overnight.

That's not to disagree with your post and say that they're hiding their faces out of fear, of course. -6C is still uncomfortable if you're out in it for an extended time like these cops are, particularly if it's windy.
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
58. Exactly, those guys are going to be out in that weather for hours.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:07 AM
Feb 2022

I spent many years in a very cold environment. I’m a hiker, downhill and cross country skier.

My face was always covered anytime the temp is below 30.

Jedi Guy

(3,419 posts)
62. I grew up on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and then moved to Arizona in my late teens.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:27 AM
Feb 2022

Then I moved to southern Ontario in my early 30s. If the temp is below 0C, I just stay inside. The pupper is welcome walk himself if he wants to.

Sympthsical

(10,854 posts)
65. Bridges also tend to have wind
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:53 AM
Feb 2022

One of my favorite things is watching tourists walk across the Golden Gate Bridge or take a ferry out to Angel Island or Alcatraz when they think, "California in the spring, should be warm!" Oh, no no no.

Once, after they opened up the eastern span of the Bay Bridge to pedestrians, a buddy and I decided to bike across it to Treasure Island in April.

Once.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
68. Good point.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:03 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Bridges can be very windy.

I remember a nice breezy day I bicycled across to Arlington on whatever bridge that is that crosses from DC. I ended up walking the bike once on the bridge lol.

Spazito

(55,245 posts)
60. The mask mandate is still in effect in Ontario...
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:11 AM
Feb 2022

The face covering is doing double duty.

Beachnutt

(8,873 posts)
29. They're all slithering away
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:59 AM
Feb 2022

quietly...
Good that noone was hurt but they should be held accountable.

ProfessorGAC

(75,852 posts)
30. Of Course They Have
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:00 AM
Feb 2022

Their "principles" aren't important enough to them to risk $100k in fines & 12 months in the slammer.
It was a bought & paid for fake grassroots tantrum. The money won't come in forever & the penalties are beyond their pretend principles.

ProfessorGAC

(75,852 posts)
41. That Was My Point
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:28 AM
Feb 2022

There were no "principles" involved. It was a paid tantrum.
Once there were legal consequences, and the checks cleared it wasn't important enough to stay.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
54. I suspect those oligarchs
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:59 AM
Feb 2022

Aren’t just American. I suspect there is some Russian dark money in there too.

Captain Zero

(8,744 posts)
38. They should go ahead and fine ringleaders
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:16 AM
Feb 2022

Surely there's some law they've broken. Your just gonna let them drive away from this? Should be a fine for every day after they were first asked to leave.

ProfessorGAC

(75,852 posts)
42. Seems Reasonable
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:29 AM
Feb 2022

Though conspiracy is hard to prove, make them defend themselves.
Clearly, that many people didn't simultaneously have the exact same idea.

Beachnutt

(8,873 posts)
40. You can bet that they all
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:21 AM
Feb 2022

have been documented via zoom lens pictures and video, the authorities by now know exactly who every one of them are and where they live and work.
Long arm of the law will reach out and grab them at some point.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
44. Also, the American ones (or unAmerican ones) will have to pass through customs at the border.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:39 AM
Feb 2022

And Homeland is probably comparing them with when the crossed the border into Canada.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
45. Tiffany Cross just said,
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:41 AM
Feb 2022

“ Oh, well, everything is peaceful!” Hint, let us go back to the drivel until violence happens.

Thank goodness for the internet and your link!

gab13by13

(31,238 posts)
48. Those people caused a lot of grief,
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:43 AM
Feb 2022

and I don't believe anyone was arrested. What message does that send?

The cops sent a message to the Occupy Wall Street protesters, don't mess with American oligarchs.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
53. If they want to protest
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:57 AM
Feb 2022

Get some signs and stage a march. Don’t block commerce and traffic. Park your trucks somewhere legal and hit the sidewalk or march down the street. This whole “seizing commerce” BS is BS. Arrest the drivers, impound the trucks, make the impound fee $10k a day, and go from there. If they don’t settle and recover their truck in 30 days sell it. Easy.

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
55. Those truckers
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:02 AM
Feb 2022

Could potentially face bigger fines and jail time than American Terrorist attacking our capital with intentions to kill. Shameful. The lady justice statues throughout our courts should be melted down for scrap medal.

intheflow

(29,998 posts)
63. Can I just say it's good to read they brought the snipers out.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:40 AM
Feb 2022

I have been to SO MANY peaceful protests in DC, under Repuke presidents, and they always had snipers trained on us from atop every federal building. I’ve never heard of snipers at RW DC protests, including, obviously, January 6th. I’m not saying I want them shot, but I’m relishing the irony of the gun-humpers being in the sights.

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