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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew Covid cases seem to be dwindling across the nation
As the result there is a push to relax requirements that protect.
Are cases really dwindling? Are we being snookered?
Many deaths are being reported and some suggest that makes sense because those cases have been infected earlier. Huh?
At home test kits have been sent out all over. There is no requirement to report positive cases, just some encouragement. Doctors and clinics may be required but us at-home folk and businesses may not wish to report the news of infections. Lots of reasons to keep it quiet and in many cases likely because it is not required. People stay home a few days and usually stay out of the hospital because Omicron has meant less hospitalized cases than Delta. No record if we don't report and don't go to emergency.
We are not seeing the end of the latest wave unless our metric is officially counted cases.
Am I wrong?
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)Plenty of pandemic left, Im sure.
agingdem
(7,866 posts)college kids hitting the beaches and the bars en masse...and then bringing the variant/variants back to campus...I predict a spike sometime in late March..that been the pattern for the last two "breaks"...this time less fear and more kids...
BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)marmar
(77,097 posts)Tetrachloride
(7,877 posts)Its like driving in snow at the start of winter in that a great many people have forgotten to slow down.
Pandemic overconfidence is far more ingrained now.
pandr32
(11,631 posts)Cairycat
(1,707 posts)I think they'll go up again with the next variant. The relaxation will make it hard to convince people to mask up, test, report.
Iowa has pretty much outlawed mask mandates. When I go to the grocery store, maybe 10-20% masking. In the elementary schools where I work days, maybe 25% of kids, about the same for teachers and paras (seems to be related to age). The vax rate for elementary age kids is less than 20% in my county
I suspect also that there are a lot of people who get covid and don't report, and then just go to work as usual, because of lack of sick leave or pressure not to use it.
pandr32
(11,631 posts)The new variant that is making huge gains elsewhere in the world is here. It is an Omicron variant. People are still getting infections and suffering with them without reporting.
We can't test for the new variant if people aren't reporting cases.
The media gets to report a rosey outlook and it is a false flag.
moondust
(20,017 posts)Long before home test kits, in May 2020 Rebekah Jones was fired from the Florida Department of Health "due to her refusal to hide COVID-19 data." Would anybody be surprised to learn that other red states have been fudging their numbers so they can "return to normal" (and watch people die)?
By the way, she is running against Matt Gaetz in 2022.
pandr32
(11,631 posts)moondust
(20,017 posts)Probably lots and lots of people not reporting positive test results--in addition to potentially fudged numbers, etc.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)are declining. That's a stat that can't be faked. As is wastewater Covid presence. After an enormous spike Boston wastewater Covid levels are back to pre Omicron. Definitely can't fake that stat.
pandr32
(11,631 posts)I looked it up and found that wastewater testing isn't considered a reliable means to predict cases--just that it adds data to other indicators. Not only that, not all states, counties and cities do this. Funding is an issue in some places and likely Republicans.
BigmanPigman
(51,642 posts)about 4 months. It may be less severe but who knows. A lot of the people on the planet haven't been vaxxed allowing more variants to form.
pandr32
(11,631 posts)Even if cases are being under-counted now in order to paint a pretty picture a new variant rise will be pretty hard to disguise in the coming months. Spring break will likely be a problem.
Silent3
(15,379 posts)So what happens next probably depends completely on the random nature of variants. The general trend historically is toward less virulent/more contagious, but that's hardly guaranteed. Since Omicron was way up on the scale for contagiousness, hopefully less-virulent is all we get next.
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)I know a lot of people that caught Omicron and many of them were vaxxed and some were boosted.
That's the maddening part. You can get fully vaccinated, take precautions while out and about, and still get it. It makes it so-oooo hard to be nice to anti-vaxxer idiots--even when they are relatives.
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)pandr32
(11,631 posts)I can't say the same.
Hopefully, you will still be able to make that claim in the future.
Poiuyt
(18,131 posts)February 8, 2022 at 8:03 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 157 Comments
Dr. Anthony Fauci told the Financial Times that the United States is heading out of the full blown pandemic phase of Covid-19, as he predicted a combination of vaccinations, treatments and prior infection would soon make the virus more manageable.
Fauci added that there would be an end to all pandemic-related restrictions in the coming months including mandatory wearing of masks.
Said Fauci: As we get out of the full-blown pandemic phase of Covid-19, which we are certainly heading out of, these decisions will increasingly be made on a local level rather than centrally decided or mandated. There will also be more people making their own decisions on how they want to deal with the virus.
https://politicalwire.com/2022/02/08/fauci-says-full-blown-pandemic-phase-is-ending/
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)I'm not hearing about nearly as many cases in the last 3 weeks or so. So anecdotally, yes, cases are going down.
pandr32
(11,631 posts)Not here, really though. There are so many unvaccinated people.
Tree Lady
(11,514 posts)With 300 employees was going to do in CA when mask mandate lifted, They did really well for almost a year and a half then last June CA lifted masks and in two weeks they went from zero cases to 30 and started tested everyone weekly.
She said even though they are lifting it next week, they also said if anyone is around someone positive they have to stay home for 5 days. So they are keeping employees wearing a mask to keep them at work.
pandr32
(11,631 posts)We are nowhere near the time we should relax.