Hillary Clinton uses the M word

[malaise]

And Fux runs scared

https://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-fox-news-is-awfully-close-to-actual-malice-in-their-coverage-of-her-2022-2


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday criticized Fox News' coverage of her connection to what some conservatives have argued was a plot to spy on former President Donald Trump but that fact-checkers have found to be severely lacking in context.
Clinton went so far as to accuse Fox of brushing up on the line of actual malice, an important legal distinction in defamation law.
"It's funny the more trouble Trump gets into the wilder the charges and conspiracy theories about me seem to get," Clinton said during a keynote speech at the New York Democratic Party's convention. "Fox leads the charge with accusations against me, counting on their audience to fall for it again. As an aside, they're getting awfully close to actual malice in their attacks."
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Contrary to his words Hannity cannot be serious when he tells her to bring it on- clearly Fux lawyers disagree.

[Lovie777]

1. K & R . . .

[TheBlackAdder]

37. 👍 I think they can prove willful intent to cause injury to another a hundred times over.

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The track record of denigration, unsubstantiated claims, minimal retractions and incitement of others are cumulative in nature and show a pattern of harm not only to reputation but of physical being.

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[tecelote]

46. Take Fox on Hillary!

You're the one that has the clout and you've obviously been disparaged criminally.

Please! Take them down.

It just might save Democracy in America.

Seriously.

[gab13by13]

2. Yes,

Fox went from talking about her hundreds of times a day, to 2 times yesterday after she said the M word. Bwahaha, Do it Hillary.

[malaise]

3. I so hope she sues them

You have to bankrupt these criminals

[ificandream]

10. Yup. Just like Dominion is after Tootie Rudy and the rest of the idiots in Trump's campaign.

It really says it clearly, though, how Fawks backed down after her threat to them. It also shows how phony they are since they suddenly changed their script. It'll be interesting to see what the future holds on both sides. I really do hope she sues them. They've been after the Clintons since day one. There's more than enough evidence to slap them down silly.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. "awfully close" is like a brushback pitch in baseball

This is so uncharacteristic of Hillary. I wonder if it portends something more widespread by her or by Dems in general. Maybe just to force Fox to tread a bit more cautiously. Can they afford more lawsuits - after Dominion?

[StClone]

52. And it seems to have worked as FOXers are now avoiding the topic.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

5. "Actual malice" is a legal term that Clinton, as a lawyer as well as a public figure, would know.

The Supreme Court, in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964), established the "actual malice" standard in defamation actions brought by public figures. A public figure must prove that the person uttering the defamatory statement did so "with knowledge of its falsity" or with "reckless disregard for the truth of the statement". It is a high bar for a defamation plaintiff.

Hillary is telling Fox to watch its step.

[cilla4progress]

22. Well and doing so after the term entered the

general parlance through Alaska Barbie (Palin') suit was a master stroke!

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

25. I was just explaining for those who didn't know the legal definition. n/t

[Joinfortmill]

29. I hope she knocks them on their collective asses.

[malaise]

36. Everyone of them at Fux knows they are spreading lies

Every fucking one of them

[ancianita]

44. The crux of your claim is evidence that they know. I hope she has it.

[OMGWTF]

56. Progressive radio Goddess Randi Rhodes used to work at a Premier Radio Networks,

a subsidiary of Clear Channel which also hosted Fux News. She would go to the company Christmas party and people from Fux would tell her they knew they were telling lies, but hey, money, career, blah blah, you know.

[KentuckyWoman]

59. Best action I ever got with a poor retailer .... "remediation"

We ordered an electric recliner for my husband that was delivered with a sickening odor. We shut it up in the 2nd bedroom with towels stuffed in the door and tried to open windows as much as possible to let it "off gas"

After 3 weeks of it I finally managed to get a sales manager that told me to take it outside. It's winter, in Lexington. I live on the 2nd floor with no balcony. My husband is on chemo. I can't lug this downstairs alone and can't park it out in the parking lot. It was a completely ignorant request.

I told the guy. The bottom line is this thing is making us sick. Was he going to help get it out of the house and make us whole or would I have to seek remediation some other way.

Less than an hour later, he personally came to the apartment with his nephew and a refund check to take the chair back.

Whip out a legal term and everyone hops to.

[PatSeg]

6. And meanwhile

Hillary is not running for anything and holds no government position, yet they keep attacking her with ridiculous lies as if she is still politically relevant. Pathetic superficial people with absolutely no discernable value or purpose, criticizing people who have actually contributed something.

Thirty years she has put up with this crap. Enough already.

[malaise]

38. Diversion from all the Slobfather's criminal problems

They can't help themselves

[L. Coyote]

39. BINGO. Direct correlation, all smoke screen.

Durham pulled a mini-Comey, and the timing very much appears to be abuse of the judicial system.

[PatSeg]

55. Yes, the old garbage over and over again

They are so obvious, yet people keep falling for their tired routine.

[PatSeg]

54. Yes and on the right,

Hillary is always considered a good target.

[KS Toronado]

7. Why doesn't Hannity ask Hillary to be a guest on his show?

I'm sure his viewers would love to see Hannity take her down a notch, the answer is simple.........they never
invite Democrats on, probably because they'd be exposed as lying liars, you know fake news.

[treestar]

15. +1

[malaise]

20. THiS

The truth

[Historic NY]

8. Personal damages

and punitive damages against the purveyors . Thousands of hours of video tapes.

[niyad]

9. Good for you, Madam President.

[ificandream]

11. I love her being called Madam President.

It's probably the biggest mistake this country ever made was not to elect her.

[niyad]

13. Butt we did elect her. .by three million votes.

[FoxNewsSucks]

24. She was elected. It was stolen.

The presidency was also stolen from Gore, nearly stolen from Biden despite a 7+ million vote win, and probably Kerry as well. Carter was cheated out of reelection.

Republicons haven't legitimately won a presidential election since Eisenhower. They lie, cheat and steal every time, and it works for them.

[Samrob]

32. PLEASE SEND THIS TO SCOTUS!

May I use it to remind my family and friends to never forget this.

[Joinfortmill]

30. Yeah, we could've had her. Pisses me off every time I think of it.

[turbinetree]

12. I will donate money to her to file a lawsuit against this organization that tried

and is trying to take down this government, every democratic government they have attacked..... Australia, Britain , come to mind

[Midnight Writer]

14. FOX also revived the Seth Rich "story". I thought there was already a legal settlement on that one.

[treestar]

16. So they know what they are doing

and are actually scared of a lawsuit from Hillary.

[malaise]

21. Clearly

[BSdetect]

17. The M word ought to be MURDOCH

[Joinfortmill]

31. No shit.

[malaise]

35. True

[dalton99a]

18. Kick

[honest.abe]

19. Someone should start a gofundme to help with Hillary's legal expenses going after Faux.

I hope she goes for it. I think she has a case.

[monkeyman1]

57. I said same thing in another article ! maybe get this going ?

[The Jungle 1]

23. Problem is a lot of stupid Americans believe faux.

[whathehell]

49. The "problem" is historic and global..The stupid of Europe,

and other places, many of them, believe, and have believe Right Wing lies.

[The Jungle 1]

50. Agreed this is not new.

The play book goes way back. One thing we have going for us is we always beat the fascist slime.

[whathehell]

51. True..

We always have, and hopefully, always will .

[FakeNoose]

26. They've had MALICE since Day One and we all know it

They've had malice ever since Bill Clinton was elected in 1992. Malice is very hard to prove in court, but there has to be a way to prove Faux Noise's malice. It's so plainly obvious to all of us.

[L. Coyote]

27. Not only is "actual malice" in play

Is Hillary Clinton a "public figure" when she holds no public office, is not seeking office, and has otherwise been leading a private life? Equal protection under law might have greater bearing than past elective and appointed office.

Actual malice in United States law is a legal requirement imposed upon public officials or public figures when they file suit for libel.

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[malaise]

33. Great post

[BootinUp]

41. There is no way she would not be considered public figure

imho. very humble. lol

[calimary]

61. So I guess the walls aren't closing in on Hillary Clinton.

Gee whiz. Whooda thunkit…

[Joinfortmill]

28. Good. She's been the punching bag for ultra-conservatives and Trump-nuts long enough.

I hope she sues their asses.

[OneGrassRoot]

34. I would love for her to sue them and it go to court...

put all of Fox's dirty laundry - deadly misinformation, gross hypocrisy, and character assassination, to put it mildly -- on display for the world to see.

She sat for 11 fucking hours. Those asshats can't handle 15 minutes of being questioned under oath. Fucking cowards.

[BootinUp]

40. She's had enough of your shit, Fox.

[trusty elf]

42. ...

[malaise]

43. Nailed it as usual

Hi there my friend

[trusty elf]

48. Thanks!

Hi malaise!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

45. So I guess the walls aren't closing in on Hillary Clinton

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[malaise]

47. The walls are caving in on the Slobfather

I’m lovin’ it.

[Evolve Dammit]

53. Way to go HRC! Give them a warning and then sue their ass. They can't do this in UK.

[ificandream]

58. And I hope there's some way that that FN network is penalized.

Either by lawsuit or something. That FN station (my new term for it) deserves to be stomped down.

[Mr. Evil]

60. What I've found strange for some time now is,

why do we allow a corporation whose only value is based on how often and how well it lies to even exist.

[malaise]

62. If it weren't owned by white people

It would have been shut down ages ago.

[betsuni]

63. By "we," you mean the American people?