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Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
1. I would think it would just put them neatly into the role of "collaborators."
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:28 AM
Feb 2022

I am thinking of the Vichy French, or people like Vidkun Quisling in Norway.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
2. Would Trump be considered a Quisling?
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:45 AM
Feb 2022
For the use of Vidkun Quisling. DU has smart people ... not me but others.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
7. I was thinking of Trump being willing to capitulate to Putin for power put him in that category.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:56 AM
Feb 2022

I don't know if the scenario is perfect, but that was what I was thinking of when I posted.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
10. Everytime that Quisling Trump said "fake news" as per ties between his campaign and Russia ...
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:05 AM
Feb 2022

... he was lying. Because he knew that Manafort had given Konstantin Kilimnik not just
polling data but data analytics (or what could be turned into data analytics) which allowed
Russia to pin point exactly where and by how much they had to rat fuck our elections in
order to use the Electoral College to install that Quisling Trump.


Thanx for the term Quisling we all should be using it.

BTW Manafort and Flynn should be considered Quislings too.

 

Shanti Shanti Shanti

(12,047 posts)
5. 1/3 of the country is pro Russian, it's a border dispute, always has been, not worth a war over it
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:51 AM
Feb 2022

The war mongers on tv are sickening. Germany is invisible, they only care about their pocketbooks, it's Europe's problem, let them handle it

Tommy Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
11. They have been around since 2014 and are proxies of the Russian army
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:16 AM
Feb 2022

They have been armed by Russia and infused with members of the Russian military.

Ukraine was invaded 8 years ago.

When Yanukovych fled, Russia took it as an opportunity for expansion.

dalton99a

(81,510 posts)
14. +1. The Donetsk People's Republic, the Luhansk People's Republic and the Republic of Crimea
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:55 AM
Feb 2022

are creations of Putin


Voltaire2

(13,038 posts)
13. The plan, as far as I can tell,
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:48 AM
Feb 2022

is to pump up the violence from ‘separatists’ and goad the Ukraine government into a reaction that can be used as a pretext for Russian intervention to ‘protect’ the alleged separatists communities in eastern Ukraine.

They will then dare the Ukraine government to escalate with 200,000 Russian troops surrounding the region on three sides, or accept the de facto annexation of a large chunk of Ukraine.

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