Bank Accounts of Canadian Protesters Seized

[RandySF]

Police aggressively pushed back protesters in Canada’s besieged capital on Saturday, seizing trucks and finally retaking control of the streets in front of the country’s Parliament building.

Canadian authorities also announced they had used emergency powers to seize 76 bank accounts connected to protesters, totaling roughly $3.2 million.


https://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny-canada-trucker-protests-20220219-3ivddidhvvcydbj5sie5vtg46u-story.html

[gratuitous]

1. Finding out

Tell us, boys, is it worth all you're losing?

[durablend]

4. Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

"We're pwning teh libs now!!!!!!"

[COL Mustard]

25. Canucks Don't Be Playin'!

That's hard core! Good on 'em, eh?

[FakeNoose]

81. Now the truckers' WIVES are bitching!

"Yes dear, I'll come home now. Yes dear, this is over."

Smart move by Canadian law enforcement. Could have been done sooner, but it's still a smart move. They all cleared out quickly once their accounts got frozen. Democracy moves slowly and it's rarely efficient.

[dchill]

18. Finding out - the eventual result of fucking around.

Should be one of the laws of physics.

[Earth-shine]

65. Newton's Third Law: Action & Reaction

His third law states that for every action (force) in nature there is an equal and opposite reaction. If object A exerts a force on object B, object B also exerts an equal and opposite force on object A. In other words, forces result from interactions.

[dchill]

66. Ahh! So we're just dealing with a modern interpretation.

[Nevilledog]

33. They has a sad

[SunSeeker]

43. "I didn't see this all the way through." Ya think? NOW he's worried about "negative impact"?

[DENVERPOPS]

73. Also known as

the law of un-intended consequences...............

[3Hotdogs]

47. That is the best post I've read all year.

I wish you could see the big smile on my face.

[live love laugh]

56. 😂😂😂

[niyad]

58. Not the sharpest pencil in the box, is he?

[Justice matters.]

69. Do your own ... research...

Quite a little baby there... "if vaccines don't work, inject a microchip, or are a conspiracy from the deep state" appears in text or videos on the Internet... right??

Declare Bankruptcy now, IDIOT!

[SWBTATTReg]

2. Man! They sure don't waste any time, don't they! Great, dry up the money, dry up the

insurrectionists and their illegal protests. Me thinks it's more than just a Canadian protest, I suspect a lot of BS on the part of these pseudo 'protesters' as being trump fanatics (or at least by now), and I wouldn't be surprised if a trump entity or trump himself funneled money to these people.

[Bev54]

12. Yes they have to move fast, the emergency act is on for 30 days. They can request an

extension but I don't think they want to.

[Justice matters.]

23. Class action lawsuit suing convoy organizers, donors, truckers for $306 million -- and counting

From exhausted and intimidated Ottawa downtown citizens.

The insurrectionists & trumpists will be left penniless. Idiots!

https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/class-action-lawsuit-suiing-convoy-organizers-donors-truckers-for-306-million-and-counting-5076170#:~:text=Class%20action%20lawsuit%20suing%20convoy%20organizers%2C%20donors%2C%20truckers,weekend%20in%20Ottawa%20on%20Saturday%2C%20February%205%2C%202022.

[Calista241]

64. Smart idea. Just take a bunch of their shit away.

What could possibly go wrong with impoverishing and punitively punishing potential revolutionaries en masse, who would all still have easy access to firearms.

[Justice matters.]

68. The less fortunate organizers will probably escape with self-declared bankruptcies

And a bad credit score for years...

But... the billionaire tech-trumpist oligarchs who donated will get a big bill... that will teach 'em sometin'

[BobTheSubgenius]

71. Guns aren't nearly as easy to come by in Canada.

If you already have an FAC, you can buy one fairly easily, but the restrictions on its use, or even transporting it, are pretty rigorous. Virtually any infraction can result in up to $5000 and 5 years.

[Maru Kitteh]

76. What could possibly go wrong with appeasing Russian-backed domestic terrorists?

They should probably invite the poor dears to come drink some warm cocoa and talk about their feeeeeeelings.

[quakerboy]

83. Granted they still share a border with US

But its my understanding guns are a bit more limited in Canada.

Also the opposite proposal would seem to be allowing potential revolutionaries, en masse, to attack a city for weeks with no consequences and then allow them to retain as much wealth as possible with which to acquire firearms?

I dont care for your proposition, stated as is, but I dislike the opposing option even more.

[3Hotdogs]

48. Now that is the silliest post I have ever read on D.U.

TRUMP AIN't GIVING MONEY TO ANYBODY. NEVER !

He is all about getting and keeping money.

[SWBTATTReg]

52. Ha ha heh...I forgot. I remembered when they tried to nail tRump on what charities he

supported and he really couldn't come up w/ anything, and if anything, if I recall correctly, it was faked too.

NY State banned the (I think) the entire tRump family from ever doing any charities in the state (hint to other states, take notice, look at tRump's wife in her current auction for 'charity' (yeah, and I have a bridge to sell you).

[3Hotdogs]

53. My favorite was when he paid his son's Boy Scout dues of around $10.00 from his foundation...

and claimed it as a tax deduction.

Now that takes balls.

[SWBTATTReg]

54. Oh, that's right! That is a good one. Just how pathetic does one have to be, to worry about

a $10 donation?

[knightmaar]

70. They wasted three weeks before doing anything.

I live in Ottawa, on the outskirts fortunately, but this went on way too long with the tacit approval of the local police.

The Ottawa police chief eventually resigned.

[Maru Kitteh]

77. Glad to hear there were consequences for the chief. I was reading about

Ottawans complaining of the buddy-buddy relationship "hugs and high-fives" between the protestors and cops there.

[quakerboy]

82. That seems rather unlikely

Trump funneling money to the someone else?

Now.. his true believers? Sure. His owners? Sure. Trump himself? Not unless he found a way to get the majority cut of the spoils

[Budi]

3. Coordinating a national protest & shutting down a city & international travel isn't cheap!

Those trucks don't tow themselves away, ya know.

Recoup your losses Canada.
Bravo.

[Bev54]

13. The Mayor of Ottawa has already said, he wants them sold to recoup some of

the costs caused by this occupation.

[COL Mustard]

26. But her emails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Benghazi!!! And Whitewater!!!! And Freedumb!!!!!!

[Bev54]

28. Yeah if they are watching Faux news they would probably yell that, none too bright,

this crowd. Don't seem to even understand we are a separate sovereign country.

[ZonkerHarris]

30. There were chants of lets go brandon as the police arrested them in Ottawa. idiots.

[Budi]

34. And so he should. An appropriate call by the Mayor.

[uponit7771]

79. +1

[Traildogbob]

5. This made my day

Tuckums and Hannity gonna have some real butt hurt. Would never ever drink white wing tears, but I love the waterfall sounds they make. Well done Canada.

[COL Mustard]

27. Their tears are good

For weed control in your garden. You know, the kind you don't smoke!

[Traildogbob]

37. 😂😂😂😂

Worse than when gubment sprayed Paraquat on our weeds.

[3Hotdogs]

49. Don't worry 'bout Tukky and Hannity.

They are laughing alll the way to the bank. Do you think they really believe the shit they talk on Fox?

[Traildogbob]

55. Sadly you are correct

The furrowed brow and squeaking voice outrage are all show. There will never be consequences for the hell they have brought to our country. Sickening.

[orangecrush]

6. .....

[Ray Bruns]

7. 3.2 million? That is a lot of cash for someone who

lives in their parent's basement.

[Generic Brad]

8. It's a really nice basement

[L. Coyote]

10. Rubles or dollars?

Link to tweet

Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, the new currency of criminals.

On cue, the wingnut trolls are posting that ONE MILLION Canadian accounts have been seized by Trudeau.

Link to tweet

[Beartracks]

32. Ha ha ha ha ha!!

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[getagrip_already]

15. it only averages a little over $40k/person......

So I guess it depends on how you define "bank account". Does that include retirement savings? Money market/trading accounts? cyber currency? Business payrolls?

If it's just savings, that is a lot. Most people, even those worth more than a little, don't usually keep that much in savings. It pays no returns and you just don't need to be that liquid.

[localroger]

35. If someone is managing their own retirement portfolio, that's not a lot at all

If you have a self-managed investment portfolio or something like a simple IRA or 401(k) with less than $1 million in it, you're considered not to be in very good shape for retirement. There's a lot of question marks here, though. For example, it's not physically possible to put any kind of external control on a bitcoin wallet unless you get its password, and there is no back door or recovery mechanism for this on the blockchain. You could, though, seize an exchange account where you have "bitcoin" in the form of an account with the exchange ready to be converted one way or another, or if you have given the exchange the password to your wallet (which is equivalent to giving them all the bitcoin it contains). I suspect that under the emergency order they have grabbed everything grabbable, and will go about sorting out what is really owed as fines later.

[Happy Hoosier]

57. Crypto itself might be safe...

… but you have to cash it out to use it in the vast majority of cases. These idiots are in trouble.

[Bev54]

9. The Police have also promised that the investigation will continue, after the streets are cleared

and for months to come. Just like the 1/6 DOJ investigation. If you were there and on camera, they will come knocking on your door. I sure hope they do.

[L. Coyote]

39. Instead of SeditionHunters, what to call this effort?

Dang, I'm losing my touch, can't think of anything funny.

Maybe HoserHunters?

[niyad]

59. The 10-4 tune-in?

[gibraltar72]

11. Secret to all of it

hit em in the pocketbook.

[SergeStorms]

29. It would have been a lot cheaper.....

just to man-up and get a free vaccine in the arm, huh?

No one ever accused these right-wing Canadians of being intelligent.

[3Hotdogs]

50. Don't worry about 'em. When Trump gets to be president of Canada, they will get all their money back

plus interest.

[SergeStorms]

72. And Mexico will pay for it.

Yeah, I smell what you're sellin'.

[Demsrule86]

14. That's going to leave a mark.

[getagrip_already]

16. still, how long till gop legislatures start doing this to us?

Member of a radical lefty group like aclu or give money to democratic causes? You qualify for a huge fine if you say or do something they don't like......

This may feel good for now, but it has the potential for massive abuse based on political payback.

[Crunchy Frog]

20. So US law is Canadian law, and having a POV is the same as breaking a law?

[AZLD4Candidate]

22. It happens whenever an authoritarian takes over. Seize everything and arrest

i wouldn't put it passed the Republican states to do that.

might have constitutional problems, but judge shopping and citizens united claimed money is speech.

[Crunchy Frog]

24. I fully expect Rs to do it. I just don't think it will be because of our side setting a precedent.

It's not like they've ever needed an excuse.

[mysteryowl]

42. They will use it against BLM

[WestMichRad]

44. Nah, that's not the American way.

They’ll let corporations bleed us dry instead.

[3Hotdogs]

51. Yeah. If you ain't got no money,

you can't buy the shit that Koch industries makes.

[EX500rider]

62. Yeah I agree

Seizure of assets without court orders sounds wrong to me no matter who it's done against and I'm sure it could have been used against somebody like occupy Wall Street & people here wouldn't be quite as happy about it.

[AllyCat]

67. We already have this in place

After 9-12, one can no longer get a bank account without ID. One has to show ID to get healthcare. Library checkouts are now monitored. We already have this here. Video monitoring on every major street corner. Our assets can be frozen at any time.

[quakerboy]

84. Its foolish to think they will hesitate to do that

Regardless of whether anyone else uses the tool first. They will do it when its convenient regardless of precedent.

[mahina]

17. Hahahahahahahahahaaaa!

Ha!

Good!

[Evolve Dammit]

19. Why couldn't U.S. have done this?

[Kid Berwyn]

60. THIS!!!!!!!!!!

People here, increasingly, have assets seized for all sorts of reasons except treason.

[LiberatedUSA]

61. Exactly.

We complain about asset forfeiture and cops using it to steal money and property, but we like the concept applied to people with politics different than ours.

Looks like Canada’s police are the only ones in the country with “assault weapons”. Something we want here! After all, we have already established that those guns are only useful for mass murder, so it makes sense to only allow the cops to have those weapons (implying the police may need to do some mass murdering and it would be a damn shame if people could fight back against that with their own). After all, it isn’t like we hold year long protests for cops murdering people; so they should be the only ones with the guns that can put up a fight.

So we definitely need this here! A place where only the cops have modern guns, putting us at their mercy and where they can just freeze your money and assets and take them if you protest their ideas or vote a way they don’t like.

You’re on to something! You think a possible future Republican run government would like to do that to Democratic protesters or do you think we can implement this concept without it being used against people we don’t want it used against?

[Evolve Dammit]

74. I think the genie is out of the bottle and we have armed insurrectionists to deal with at the moment

Question is, how will DOJ deal with armed insurrectionists? Since the Bundy KKklan occupied the Refuge and suffered minimal rebukes, it opened the door for this shit to occur. So here we are. 1/6 was 14 months ago and we're still waiting for serious consequences. Without that, more violence will happen. We could learn from our Canadian neighbors.

[Snackshack]

21. Canada

Is not beating around the bush with this at all. Not sure about the seizing the bank accounts seems like a person should be tried, convicted and sentenced before going to that degree. Still good on Canada to not F around with this. The Biden admin & DOJ are hopefully paying close attention.

[Bev54]

31. NO the funds can be seized under the Emergency act, without a court order

I suspect it is the same as seizing funds before judgement. The funds will likely go to the courts until it is determined whether these are unlawful funds. Not sure but that is how it works before judgement.

[DFW]

36. Probably more like freezing and immobilizing them

The government won't take permanent possession unless it is determined the funds were of suspicious origin and/or needed to compensate for damaged perpetrated by the accounts' owners.

[localroger]

38. Useful to remember that like the UK, Canada does not have a Bill of Rights

It's a wonderful place to visit, great people, fantastic health care system and all that, but Canada does not have a First Amendment nor some of the other protections we in America take for granted. Largely they do not mind because they trust their government not to have a screaming shit fit as often as ours does, and that's one reason it probably took them so long to react decisively. But once they do act, they can do so in ways we would find shocking. They can for example seize assets or detain people indefinitely without habeas corpus. This isn't normal for them, but doing such things is the whole point of the Emergency Powers Act, something that would be flatly unconstitutional in the US (even if our authorities have in fact done such things, at least here we're supposed to know they're automatically in the wrong if they do) and for them it is completely legal once the authorities have made the declaration.

TL;DR: Don't mistake politeness for weakness. Commonwealth governments can really fuck up your shit when they get serious without any of the protections you are supposed to have in the US.

[Bev54]

45. We have a charter of rights and most of them are similar to US but they are not absolute

if you are a fuckwad. You have the insurrection act that would give your president similar powers if he instigates it. We can seize funds to stop illegal activity just like most countries and here they will be settled by the court if they are illegal funds. We are well protected by our rights and will not be fucked up if we don't try overturning our government or other stupid shit.

[localroger]

46. This is true

I think either of our countries would be willing at some point to put a foot down as Canada just did in Ottawa, the difference is what the legal risk would be and how the fallout would look in the aftermath, both of which considerations can influence the timing and willingness to take action at all.

[uponit7771]

80. +1

[mysteryowl]

40. On average, each account is about $42,000

nice

[SunSeeker]

41. Good. nt

[Mr. Steve]

63. Good Deal

Perhaps if this were done more often the overgrown adolescents throwing these temper tantrums might figure out that instead of screaming about their "rights" they should be discussing their responsibilities.

[Maru Kitteh]

75. YESSSSSS!!!!!!

[uponit7771]

78. Canadians NOT screwing around with J6 mindsets