If Roe vs Wade was ever overturned.

[grantcart]

I recall reading an article a few years ago the purported to get some of the top pro choice strategists as saying that while they would always fight for abortion rights they secretly hoped that it be overturned.

Their reasoning was this: Overturning Roe vs Wade would have very little impact on most of the population because most of the populous states would continue to legalize it.

In the meantime the rural states would see highly motivated right wing minorities get super organized and take over state Republican organizations in a bloody civil war. They would then push the most radical interpretation of no abortion ever including incest or rape. This would cause them to nominate increasingly bat shit crazy candidates that would cause them to lose up and down ticket elections in the red areas.

The very odd remarks of Akin and Murdoch seem to indicate that is exactly what would happen.

Even more interesting is the possibility of it happening even without Roe vs. Wade being overturned.

[Cary]

1. Do you mean they hope it won't be overturned?

They seem to be nominating increasingly bat shit crazy candidates already. Don't they?

[Jackpine Radical]

2. "They" who?

"They" the wingnuts or "they" the pro-choicers?

[Cary]

9. I misread, sorry.

I was thinking wingnuts.

Long day. Lots of paperwork.

[grantcart]

3. This was before the tea party maybe 5 years ago.

They prophesized that it would turn the Republican Party into an extreme radical regional party that would result in a strong weakening of the party nationally.

That seems to be happening now.

[unblock]

4. i certainly recall articles noting the right-wing pols secretly hoped it would NOT be overturned

because it's the political gift that keeps on giving, from their perspective. if roe is every overturned, you would see a BIG, BIG political shift in favor of democrats.

a lot of single-issue republicans would go away and a lot of people would come out of the woodwork to restore women's rights.

[Cary]

10. Wedge issue and all of that.

That's why I misread the initial post. I recall seeing these articles about "conservative" pols too.

[Blue Meany]

5. If it is overturned, how will the right wing mobilize its base?

[grantcart]

7. the fight would move to the states.

[Hamlette]

6. I remember an interview with a wing nut who said they would just take the battle to the blue states

if they didi it on a state by state basis, they would move their protests and activism to the states that legalized abortion and take over there, or protest or whatever, until it was illegal in every state.

Those people in states where abortion would be "safe" would face an onslaught of right wing nut cases trying to overturn it in your state.

Assholes.

[RagAss]

12. Good luck with that in the Northeast.

[justiceischeap]

8. There are states that have "failsafes" in place should RvW be overturned

I recall Maryland being one of them, 'cause I live there. And then it would become like the marriage equality battle, they would dump their money into the states that would continue to allow legal abortions by getting anti-choice judges elected (which they're already doing nationwide anyway), getting anti-choice politicians elected to change the law. And shortly after that, these fucks that are elected would start the American Taliban and their own version of Sharia law.

[Motown_Johnny]

11. That strategy fails to take into account the suffering of innocent woman who

are denied their rights once Roe is overturned.

It also assumes that in no state will the (R)s be successful. That seems unlikely.

I understand the thinking behind it and disagree with it.