Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Macron to Putin: "you are lying to yourself" (Original Post) EarthFirst Mar 2022 OP
The only way he will possess Ukraine is if he kills all 44 million people SoonerPride Mar 2022 #1
I was just thinking... lapfog_1 Mar 2022 #5
Russia will defeat itself sky_masterson Mar 2022 #2
Putin wants to recreate the Eastern Bloc-- he has said as much andym Mar 2022 #3
Not the Eastern Bloc, the Russian Empire. Caliman73 Mar 2022 #4
A drone should've tracked down this call. poli-junkie Mar 2022 #6

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
1. The only way he will possess Ukraine is if he kills all 44 million people
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:49 PM
Mar 2022

........which he may attempt to do.

But short of that he will face a permanent insurgency with inadequate force to hold it forever.

Russia will eventually be driven out.

It might take years.

lapfog_1

(29,226 posts)
5. I was just thinking...
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:57 PM
Mar 2022

time for the civilian government of Ukraine to disappear... and for the armed forces to melt into the forests of the western part of the country (supplied by Poland, Romania).

Wait 6 months while puppets are put into place by Moscow, backed by the Russian Army...

And, in one coordinated effort... the Ukrainians kill all of them and capture their weapons.

Maybe it's "French resistance" time for Ukraine, obviously no one is coming to their aid...

andym

(5,445 posts)
3. Putin wants to recreate the Eastern Bloc-- he has said as much
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:54 PM
Mar 2022

First, he needs to recreate the Soviet Union by taking back its territories. He has Georgia, Chechnia, Crimea (used to be part of the Ukraine), and now wants the Ukraine. Next on his shopping list would be Moldova (Ukraine's neighbor). He doesn't care about recreating the communist aspects of the SU, just the territorial integrity under his authoritarian control.

How will he try to get the rest? Probably by starting with the Baltic states.
Finland is not part of NATO so they would his first target.

Nuclear blackmail would be one guess on how he proceeds. Basically hand it over or WWIII.
He thinks the West is weak and so against war that Putin can bully himself into whatever he wants.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
4. Not the Eastern Bloc, the Russian Empire.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:56 PM
Mar 2022

Putin has gone after Soviet leaders for ceding any land when the USSR was formed. Putin wants the Russian Empire, whose territory exceeded that of the Soviet Union.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Macron to Putin: "you are...