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wnylib

(21,447 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 02:21 PM Mar 2022

Ukraine no fly zone for nuclear plants?

I understand the reason for not having no fly zones in Ukraine. They would involve the US or NATO in direct war with Russia because enforcement would mean bringing down Russian planes and escalating the war beyond Ukraine. But, we can provide humanitarian aid in getting sick and wounded Ukranians out of the country for treatment to lessen the death toll. And private individuals can volunteer to fight in Ukraine.

But, after the Russian attack on a nuclear plant that nearly became a nuclear disaster that for rest of Europe, are we justified in providing air cover for Ukraine's nuclear power plants?

One objection is possible "mission drift" to other areas of Ukraine. But can we, or should we take the risk of another nuclear power plant disaster since either the Russian military is inept at best, or, at worst, they are instructed to do nuclear damage?

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Ukraine no fly zone for nuclear plants? (Original Post) wnylib Mar 2022 OP
I agree completely. RockCreek Mar 2022 #1
Nope... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #2
Iron Dome supported by EU or UN, not US... AntiFascist Mar 2022 #4
It was a ground attack sarisataka Mar 2022 #3
Yes, it was a ground attack - this time. wnylib Mar 2022 #7
Long and short range AA will work better uponit7771 Mar 2022 #5
Against an air attack, yes. What about ground attacks? wnylib Mar 2022 #8
They have Javelin and NLaws, they got it covered unless RU goes to high altitude bombing. I've .. uponit7771 Mar 2022 #9
US is not going to militarily engage. David__77 Mar 2022 #6

RockCreek

(739 posts)
1. I agree completely.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 02:42 PM
Mar 2022

I have been thinking this all week. And, I would add, an area extending out from plants to allow housing of plant workers and their families. AND UN peacekeeping forces on the ground in those areas.

2naSalit

(86,581 posts)
2. Nope...
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 03:43 PM
Mar 2022

Same outcome no matter how you slice it. A few Iron Dome system set ups around those facilities might be a better idea since all they need are rockets/missiles/tanks to damage a facility.

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
3. It was a ground attack
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 03:49 PM
Mar 2022

Not aircraft damaging the plant.

Would the no fly zone extend to attacking ground forces?

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
7. Yes, it was a ground attack - this time.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:07 PM
Mar 2022

Was the goal just to take over the plant, and they were stupid about it? Or was the goal to inflict enough damage to cause a radioactive crisis but the Ukranians contained the damage? If Putin wants to create a radioactive disaster at some point in the fighting, he could use planes in the future.

Another poster has suggested UN ground troops to protect the nuclear plants. Would the Russian army fight the UN troops, creating an even worse situation with 3 fighting parties on the ground? Or would UN ground troops be a good way to protect nuclear plants.

Use planes against ground troops? If necessary, but if ground troops are close enough to the plant, an errant bomb could create the thing we want to prevent.

I don't have any answers, just concerns about the nuclear danger and questions about the best way to prevent a disaster.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
9. They have Javelin and NLaws, they got it covered unless RU goes to high altitude bombing. I've ..
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:20 PM
Mar 2022

... come to the conclusion Putrid has lost and the lobbing of munitions at citizens is his way of acting out but soon even those vehicles will have no fuel and he'll go high altitude and get his bombers shot out of the sky.

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