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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhenever the news shows the map of Ukraine, I shake my head in disbelief.
Putin is trying to take over a country about the size of Texas with a force of roughly 200,000 troops. He has these troops spread out for hundreds of miles. He is attacking from the North and east. His supply lines stretch for hundreds of miles.
The people of Ukraine have made it clear they will never surrender. When grandmothers are willing to take up arms against you, you have a problem.
The Ukraine army has grown in size. Thousands and thousands of anti-tank, anti-aircraft missiles have been delivered to the Ukraine military. More and more of these weapons are arriving everyday. Putin will not be able to stop the flow of arms into Ukraine
We can see from videos the Ukraine army is fighting in small groups across Ukraine. They are destroying tanks and aircraft one by one. They have killed thousands of Russian soldiers .
Putin has been trying to surround cities for over two weeks. If you have trouble surrounding cites, what is going to happen when you try to take those cities? It looks like Putin is hoping he can bomb, starve, the Ukrainian people until they surrender. They will not surrender. They will fight to the last man. You don't have to be a military expert to see what is going to happen to the Russian forces over time.
They will face hundreds, perhaps thousands of small groups of Ukrainian soldiers armed with thousands of missiles. They will attack the Russian soldiers everywhere across Ukraine with hit and run tactics. They will attack Russian supply lines. They will attack Russian patrols. Putin will eventually surround cities, lay siege to them. Those soldiers will come under attack from every direction. Yes, the Russians can kill hundreds of thousands of people. Yes, they can turn cities into ruble. That doesn't mean you are winning.
Putin must be reading the wrong history books. History tells us you can level a city, lay siege to it and the soldiers in that city will not give up. It can result in a stalemate. If you send forces in they will have to fight door to door. You will lose thousands of soldiers.
If this war continues on for months I can see Russian soldiers in certain cases getting cut off from supply lines, entrapped. I can see a Russian patrol make a wrong turn right into an ambush. Russian soldiers will never know when or where the next attack will come from. They will be demoralized.
Unless Putin has a secret plan that nobody knows about. We could be witnessing one of the biggest military blunders in history.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Biden has masterfully restored American leadership damaged by TFG, and world leadership in a matter of weeks.
Dont overlook the role of the diplomats that work feverishly behind the scenes to choke off the propaganda, as witnessed at the UN yesterday by the delivery of the British delegates verbal salvos.
And India and China decided to turn Switzerland, that had to be a major downer for Putin.
No borscht for you!
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)Perhaps that is why he is waving the false flag of chemical weapons in Ukraine - he thinks the only way he has available to win in the large cities is with bio-weapons...he is evil enough to try and get away with it.
Kid Berwyn
(14,800 posts)Heh heh heh.
Kaleva
(36,258 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)I'm going to guess that his bad intelligence told him the Ukrainians would not put up a fight. So he walked into Ukraine with a display of force, a force not really prepared for battle. And the Ukraine fought back and the western world united behind them.
I think in a different scenario, Putin bombs Ukraine back to the stone ages and then walks in to pick up the pieces.
But I don't think he can shift to that strategy with 200K troops already on the ground (and depleted) and on their heels.
I think either Russian intelligence sucks or someone (or a group) double crossed Putin.
The question is how do we let Putin back out with some shred of dignity? Or is it too late for that? Seems like the only way this ends is with Putin no longer the head of the crime family.
Irish_Dem
(46,520 posts)He certainly has read about the battle of Stalingrad and knows what could happen?
I think the scenario you describe makes him more likely to use nukes in Ukraine.
If the Ukraine will fight to the last person, Putin will have massive casualties.
maxsolomon
(33,251 posts)Eventually, Assad and Putin destroyed the Sunni cities (Homs, Aleppo) that defied them, killing thousands on thousands.
That is what Putin did to Grozny in Chechnya.
That is what Putin will do to Ukraine. Erase it.
200K is just the start.