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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 10:14 AM Mar 2022

China at a COVID Tipping Point

https://medriva.com/china-at-a-covid-tipping-point/

China at a COVID Tipping Point

Eric Feigl-Ding
March 15, 2022

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As mainland China has already begun to divert flights away from Shanghai & began partial lockdown this week, which schools either closing or going to remote learning. Moreover, shipping vessels have even stopped departing from Shanghai as a port! This is damn serious—Shanghai is one of the largest ports in the entire world! Along with the lockdown in Shenzhen and adjacent Dongguan, China’s disruption could mean that the world’s supply chain might completely melt down for a period.
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China at a COVID Tipping Point (Original Post) nitpicker Mar 2022 OP
Interesting OLDMDDEM Mar 2022 #1
What's the down side of sending ships out genxlib Mar 2022 #2
maybe they dont want the crew to be incapacitated at sea? Blues Heron Mar 2022 #3
The US made a big mistake when they started outsourcing all those jobs overseas. panader0 Mar 2022 #4
Yup SheltieLover Mar 2022 #6
They should have gone with mRNA vaccines instead of their homegrown crap dalton99a Mar 2022 #5
They can release the mRNA recipe and let China build it WA-03 Democrat Mar 2022 #12
Yes they are! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #7
Omicron will wash over China like it did the US Johnny2X2X Mar 2022 #8
The virus picked a good time to hit China. roamer65 Mar 2022 #9
I have doubted from the very beginning that China has PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2022 #10
Their numbers are clearly bogus dalton99a Mar 2022 #11
God, what else could go wrong? Initech Mar 2022 #13
Our small team in Shenzen JustAnotherGen Mar 2022 #14

genxlib

(5,544 posts)
2. What's the down side of sending ships out
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 10:26 AM
Mar 2022

They will experience an enforced quarantine while they are at sea. Then when they get to their destinations, they can always be held off if they have been sick.

Blues Heron

(5,944 posts)
3. maybe they dont want the crew to be incapacitated at sea?
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 10:31 AM
Mar 2022

Covid can take you out of commission for a while.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
4. The US made a big mistake when they started outsourcing all those jobs overseas.
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 10:35 AM
Mar 2022

We should manufacture the stuff we need here at home. Of course, foreign labor is cheaper,
so greedy CEOs sent our jobs abroad. The workers in the US suffered, and now, we are being held
hostage by "supply chain" issues. Bring our jobs and manufacturing home, quit helping the
economies of foreign countries, and begin helping our own. Buy union made American products!

WA-03 Democrat

(3,056 posts)
12. They can release the mRNA recipe and let China build it
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 11:31 AM
Mar 2022

It would be a good diplomatic move and help the people of china. China and the US are the world economy. we are fused together. Their corrupt government wont give up power and we want to keep out lowest cost supply chain. No other countries can do what the US and China has become in terms of the world’s great trading partners. Giving them manufacturing rights and have them produce the vaccine would also symbolically crack the Russia and China bond and help defeat Putin. Some carrots so to speak.

I trust President Biden. I thought his foreign policy experience was second to none coming into office. Like everything else, he has managed it with grace and served America and is the clear leader of the world.

Johnny2X2X

(19,192 posts)
8. Omicron will wash over China like it did the US
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 10:46 AM
Mar 2022

Early in the pandemic, I read an article that predicted a lot of this, that the natural path for a virus is to mutate into a less fatal, but more contagious variant.

And I don't know if it was part luck, but the author of this detailed what might work over the whole life cycle. Prevention like mask wearing and social distancing (restaurant shutdowns etc) until we get a vaccine. Push vaccines hard and start to ease some restrictions as the public fatigues of them. Then when a less dangerous variant came along, let it wash over the country to provide some natural immunity for those wouldn't get vaxxed. And low and behold, that's about what happened here.

Omicron is too contagious for China to slow its spread much. China is almost 90% fully vaccinated though so it's not going to fill their hospitals up as much as it did here.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
9. The virus picked a good time to hit China.
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 10:47 AM
Mar 2022

They can’t fight a virus and help the Russians at the same time.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,908 posts)
10. I have doubted from the very beginning that China has
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 10:55 AM
Mar 2022

revealed even remotely honest numbers about the Corona virus cases there.

They admit to 4,636 deaths at this point, which doesn't remotely ring true given the reports early on of hospitals and morgues being overwhelmed. Yes, they are better than most at doing draconian lock-downs, but given how very easily this spreads, even the most stringent measures are limited. The island nations that have simply not let anyone in have done the best, and even those have gotten Covid outbreaks.

India is another country that has probably had at least ten times the official death counts from Covid.

JustAnotherGen

(31,932 posts)
14. Our small team in Shenzen
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 12:41 PM
Mar 2022

Is totally shut down. The actual 'industrial park' is locked down. No transportation suppliers (not even Fedex or UPS) are allowed in or out.

Killing our production team in NL.

Our lions share of manufacturing is in the USA - with maybe 5% in Netherlands and 5% in China to by tariffs and VAT.

This is bad. Really bad for supply chain.

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