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Donkees

(31,458 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:23 AM Mar 2022

⚡️Ukraine's military intelligence claim that Russia's elites scheme to overthrow Putin

The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
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⚡️Ukraine’s military intelligence claim that Russia’s elites scheme to overthrow Putin to restore economic ties with Western countries.

Aleksandr Bortnikov, head of FSB security agency, is allegedly being considered as Putin’s successor, according to Ukraine's intelligence.

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⚡️Ukraine's military intelligence claim that Russia's elites scheme to overthrow Putin (Original Post) Donkees Mar 2022 OP
Alrighty then . . . Lovie777 Mar 2022 #1
The question is.. Otto_Harper Mar 2022 #3
Film or Book? I missed this I think. msfiddlestix Mar 2022 #16
TV show. Igel Mar 2022 #20
Interesting. msfiddlestix Mar 2022 #21
Fanning the flames of distrust panchobarnz Mar 2022 #2
Yup, this could be war propaganda from Ukraine. We can hope this will happen. Propaganda is mucifer Mar 2022 #8
Not surprising. He's been in power 22 years and he comes up with this atrocity. brush Mar 2022 #4
TMI...whatever happened to covert operations? Etherealoc1 Mar 2022 #5
This is being made public for a reason. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #10
psychops obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #11
Psyops, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #12
Bortnikov will fall out of a window by tuesday sky_masterson Mar 2022 #6
+1 Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #14
Yep ck4829 Mar 2022 #7
Nice psyops, whether or not it is true Sanity Claws Mar 2022 #9
Well that's just great. Turbineguy Mar 2022 #13
How awkward to be faced with a reality of the situation mahina Mar 2022 #15
Putting another FSB guy in charge does not instill confidence... bluedigger Mar 2022 #17
Bortnikov probably has his own food taster dalton99a Mar 2022 #18
Shit. Another paranoid FSB sonofabitch. Ilsa Mar 2022 #19

Lovie777

(12,330 posts)
1. Alrighty then . . .
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:29 AM
Mar 2022

put doubt in the Russia and put notice to Putin that his days are numbered, be it true or not . ...

Two can play that game.

Otto_Harper

(509 posts)
3. The question is..
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:40 AM
Mar 2022

whether Putin is so far gone that he doesn't recognize his very own techniques coming back at him.

(by the way, this technique was beautifully depicted more than 50 years ago in "The Prisoner" episode titled "Hammer Into Anvil". That one in particular grabbed me as a youngster and has stayed with me all these years).

Igel

(35,359 posts)
20. TV show.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 12:05 PM
Mar 2022

Classic dystopian, with some surreal elements. (Still don't like the ending. Might have to binge watch it to see if I missed something.)

But many of the episodes are absolute anti-authoritarian classics. One of the few shows I might actually buy and keep on disk. Apart from the finale (which is too "Casino Royale-ish" for my liking).

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
21. Interesting.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 12:18 PM
Mar 2022

Must have been on the air when I refused to own a tv..

that lasted for only about a decade, I gave in when my daughter whined about not being able to see the shows all her friends watched, especially the debut of MTV.

Any who, I wonder if it's available on line... i'll have a looksie.




mucifer

(23,569 posts)
8. Yup, this could be war propaganda from Ukraine. We can hope this will happen. Propaganda is
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 09:07 AM
Mar 2022

an important war tool.

brush

(53,871 posts)
4. Not surprising. He's been in power 22 years and he comes up with this atrocity.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:44 AM
Mar 2022

Russians want normality and relationships with the rest of the world. Especially the elite and oligarchs who are losing big money.

That much power for that long creates a Dunning-Kruger effect on steroids.

Sanity Claws

(21,854 posts)
9. Nice psyops, whether or not it is true
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 09:14 AM
Mar 2022

It is enough to make the paranoid Putin even more paranoid and scream, "Off with their heads!"

Turbineguy

(37,369 posts)
13. Well that's just great.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 10:19 AM
Mar 2022

I wonder if Hitler would have gone to that meeting had he known Count Von Stauffenberg was carrying a bomb.

mahina

(17,701 posts)
15. How awkward to be faced with a reality of the situation
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 10:23 AM
Mar 2022

And have such a struggle to Find collaborators in that environment. Nobody could overthrow him alone.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
19. Shit. Another paranoid FSB sonofabitch.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:27 AM
Mar 2022

Why not elect someone interested in creating a free, democratic society?

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