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Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:22 PM

I predict Ukraine emerges from this and rises to become a leader in Europe

Imagine the amount of world support to rebuild that country. It will be fast and it will be impressive, the best of the best, state-of-the-art throughout. They will experience the opposite of "brain drain" when the cream-of-the-crop join the effort: scientists, engineers, architects, teachers, artists, everybody with gratitude and a passion to demonstrate the triumph over evil.

Imagine how strong their military will be; "never again" will become their motto. They will be champions of the little guy, the oppressed, the underdog.

Controversially, but ultimately understandably, they will withdraw from the NPT (Non-Proliferation Treaty) which they signed in 1994--and resulted in their nuclear disarmament--and resume their nuclear program. They will cooperate fully with the West on issues of oversight and control.

They will emerge the strongest and most powerful benevolent democracy Europe has ever experienced. They may even become the center of Europe, playing a massive role in the reaffirmation of democratic principles and practice.

Their voice will be strong in the EU, the UN, NATO, and other western alliances. Their advice will be sought and given to fledgling democracies everywhere.

Ukriane will become Putin's worst nightmare, and he will have nobody to blame but himself.

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Reply I predict Ukraine emerges from this and rises to become a leader in Europe (Original post)
intrepidity Mar 2022 OP
at140 Mar 2022 #1
PortTack Mar 2022 #2
gordianot Mar 2022 #3
Lettuce Be Mar 2022 #4
blm Mar 2022 #5
Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #6
left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #7
Hoyt Mar 2022 #8
at140 Mar 2022 #10
WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #9
roamer65 Mar 2022 #11
canetoad Mar 2022 #12

Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:27 PM

1. The world may be, USA not so much

Sadly we are in debt to our eyeballs already.

https://usdebtclock.org

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:27 PM

2. Countries are already stepping up. Italy says they will rebuild the bombed Mariupol theater

Israel says they will rebuild the maternity hospital.

I hope all the seized property, be it yachts or property will be sold and go for reparations too!

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:42 PM

3. Ukraine should become a center for renewable energy.

Break the hold of petrochemical cartels and war states. A free and independent Ukraine may well create a desire from Russia that Ukraine would merely have become a member of EU and NATO.

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:46 PM

4. Putin will be long gone before the rebuild. Just sayin

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:57 PM

5. Putin helped Make Ukraine Greater than Ever.

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:20 PM

6. Saw an interview with a Ukrainian official the other day...

She said, when asked about joining NATO, "When this is done, NATO will be joining Ukraine."



You have to admire the moxie.

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 06:07 PM

7. "the strongest and most benevolent democracy Europe has ever seen"

Well hell, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 06:29 PM

8. Not sure about that. Certainly not as bad as Russia, but Ukraine's reputation

 

for corruption — before the invasion — was well known.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/opinion/ukraine-russia-zelensky-putin.html

None of that justifies Putin’s invasion, but a “leader” might be a stretch at this point. 10 or more years from now, if they change, might be possibility.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 10:17 PM

10. Bravo! you tell it like it is!!

Ukraine was very well known for corruption.

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 06:36 PM

9. lol good lord

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:35 AM

11. I see Ukrainians become the backbone of a new EU army.

A federal Europe is not far away, now.

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Mon Mar 21, 2022, 02:04 AM

12. They are on the eastern frontier

But I can see an alliance of Baltic states - Byellorussia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine making an informal or even formal alliance. Give them bargaining power and equality with western Eu states.

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