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Luizy

(43 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 06:06 PM Mar 2022

Edward Snowden's legendary tweet claiming that USA was making up the imminent Russian invasion

Please retweet for exposure to his embarrassment and Russophile ways:


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Edward Snowden's legendary tweet claiming that USA was making up the imminent Russian invasion (Original Post) Luizy Mar 2022 OP
Snowden's time as a useful propaganda dupe are likely rapidly coming to an end... hlthe2b Mar 2022 #1
Yeah, there's no evidence Russia is planning to invade Ukraine Downtown Hound Mar 2022 #2
The ultimate example of "This Tweet Aged Poorly"... regnaD kciN Mar 2022 #3
Fuck him. We are better off without him. bottomofthehill Mar 2022 #4
Yeap. That small "dacha" Putin gave him in northern Siberia where the only thing he is... madinmaryland Mar 2022 #8
So grateful for the increasing scrutiny on the various purveyors of Russian propaganda. FreepFryer Mar 2022 #5
".. new McCarthyism".. they got Cha Mar 2022 #12
Nice ! :) (NT) FreepFryer Mar 2022 #13
Another idiot who thinks he's smarter than everyone else. betsuni Mar 2022 #6
+1 honest.abe Mar 2022 #9
there were literally satellite photos released every day..... Takket Mar 2022 #7
I really have a deep dislike for self-absorbed morons. Mr. Evil Mar 2022 #10
FO Snowden.. I was on to your SHIT Cha Mar 2022 #11
Love The Way You Put That Me. Mar 2022 #15
lol💕🤷‍♂️ Cha Mar 2022 #16
I hope that Putin doesn't invite him to the Kremlin for a cup of tea. Jacson6 Mar 2022 #14
The funny thing is that few seem to recall that Snowden is not in Russia by choice.... xocetaceans Mar 2022 #17
Thanks for posting that reminder. nt Raine Mar 2022 #19
Wow that tweet is a bunch of word salad. I really can't glean any meaning besides... LuvLoogie Mar 2022 #24
He was probably real cranky seeing the dozens and dozens of basketball dunking gifs in response betsuni Mar 2022 #27
He doesn't think his thoughts on this "continue to be useful" because his utility is for Russia mathematic Mar 2022 #40
Who said political prisoner? The facts of the incident suport what I wrote. n/t xocetaceans Mar 2022 #41
The FACT is that Snowden CHOOSES to evade the law. mathematic Mar 2022 #42
Ok...Who said political prisoner? Who said Batman? Where is the Russian propaganda? Adduce the... xocetaceans Mar 2022 #43
Furthermore: NSA data collection ruled illegal and upheld by a court of appeals... xocetaceans Mar 2022 #44
What a spectacular chump. Nt Baked Potato Mar 2022 #18
QAnon-esque C Moon Mar 2022 #20
In fairness, Russia didn't moonscape Mar 2022 #21
I'm afraid that's a technicality. I don't believe the time limit was the main point. Martin68 Mar 2022 #23
Didn't think I needed a sarcasm emoji but guess I did. moonscape Mar 2022 #30
moonscape, I have fallen pry to a misunderstanding of my liberal use of irony. Sorry I did that to Martin68 Mar 2022 #33
No worries. Serves me right for being moonscape Mar 2022 #35
I like most emojis, but that "Sarcasm" one insults one's intelligence. Martin68 Mar 2022 #36
Snowden himself proves your excuse wrong Luizy Mar 2022 #29
I was being sarcastic ... moonscape Mar 2022 #31
Edward Snowdon, consider yourself dunked. Martin68 Mar 2022 #22
"There may never be a safer election in which to vote for a third option" he said in 2016. betsuni Mar 2022 #25
I've been blind-sided by friends who I thought were liberals and are now taking Russia's side, Martin68 Mar 2022 #26
From 2014 on I saw friends sucked into the anti-American pro-Russian propaganda betsuni Mar 2022 #28
He retracted it and apologized for the error FakeNoose Mar 2022 #32
I believe the tweet betrays Snowden's bias against the Democratic Party, as other have Martin68 Mar 2022 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Luizy Mar 2022 #37
You should have said "spectacularly erroneous" Luizy Mar 2022 #38
You retract a tweet by deleting it, he didn't. Also, where did he apologize? mathematic Mar 2022 #39

hlthe2b

(112,818 posts)
1. Snowden's time as a useful propaganda dupe are likely rapidly coming to an end...
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 06:17 PM
Mar 2022

He might want to lay low as the heat is turned up among Russians slowly coming to realize the truth-- and the Putinistas looking for scapegoats.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
2. Yeah, there's no evidence Russia is planning to invade Ukraine
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 06:34 PM
Mar 2022

Except for the fact that Russia has built up hundreds of thousands of troops along Ukraine's borders in what can best be described as an attack formation, yeah, there's no evidence of that at all.

And calling Russia out on it is proof that Russia is the victim here.

I was sympathetic to Snowden back when he had his debut but he's long since proven himself to be another Russian tool.

madinmaryland

(65,668 posts)
8. Yeap. That small "dacha" Putin gave him in northern Siberia where the only thing he is...
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 06:55 PM
Mar 2022

able to do is pound snow for the rest of his life sounds pretty good for him.

FreepFryer

(7,086 posts)
5. So grateful for the increasing scrutiny on the various purveyors of Russian propaganda.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 06:49 PM
Mar 2022

Remember when the master projectionists at Russia Today accused western press of “New McCarthyism” because we questioned Trump’s ties to Russia?

They signal what they fear most, and what they know they have coming.

Cha

(316,794 posts)
12. ".. new McCarthyism".. they got
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 07:36 PM
Mar 2022

their own Mccarthy right in the House of Representatives.

Takket

(23,481 posts)
7. there were literally satellite photos released every day.....
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 06:54 PM
Mar 2022

showing more and more troops and equipment massing on the border. He says there was no evidence released? Fuck that piece of shit.

Mr. Evil

(3,436 posts)
10. I really have a deep dislike for self-absorbed morons.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 07:22 PM
Mar 2022

Enjoy Siberia dipshit. I believe your usefulness to your new 'Dear Leader' has run its course.

Cha

(316,794 posts)
11. FO Snowden.. I was on to your SHIT
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 07:30 PM
Mar 2022

from the GET GO!

You're WRONG.. No Excuses. Fucking Traitor.. enjoy your host putin.

Cha

(316,794 posts)
16. lol💕🤷‍♂️
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 08:00 PM
Mar 2022

'Cause I was remembering all that crap he put us through. him and Greenwald.

💙💛

xocetaceans

(4,345 posts)
17. The funny thing is that few seem to recall that Snowden is not in Russia by choice....
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 08:09 PM
Mar 2022

President Obama's Administration's actions are why he is in Russia instead of in some other country.

Also, if you do not recall, he pointed out the spying that the NSA was doing here in the US. Is
that now acceptable? Here's a review of what Snowden revealed:



Lastly, for the sake of completeness, Snowden admitted his call on the invasion was wrong:

LuvLoogie

(8,519 posts)
24. Wow that tweet is a bunch of word salad. I really can't glean any meaning besides...
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 09:42 PM
Mar 2022

"It's your fault I'm wrong."

betsuni

(28,719 posts)
27. He was probably real cranky seeing the dozens and dozens of basketball dunking gifs in response
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:19 PM
Mar 2022

to his Tweet.

mathematic

(1,602 posts)
40. He doesn't think his thoughts on this "continue to be useful" because his utility is for Russia
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 03:59 PM
Mar 2022

Here is a "hero" of freedom and transparency, willing to share his every last critical thought of the United States of America, but he doesn't think publishing his thoughts on autocratic Russia's invasion of democratic Ukraine is useful?

USEFUL TO WHO?
It should be plainly obvious that his thoughts only get published if they are useful to Russia. Because he's a propagandist for Russia.

And btw, he is absolutely in Russia by choice. Fleeing justice is a choice. The laws he broke in the US are just laws so don't give me that political prisoner garbage.

mathematic

(1,602 posts)
42. The FACT is that Snowden CHOOSES to evade the law.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:24 PM
Mar 2022

He is in russia by choice. He works as a russian propagandist by choice.

And, no, it is not acceptable to info dump unredacted classified information to satisfy your own sense of right and wrong. Edward Snowden is not batman, alright?

xocetaceans

(4,345 posts)
43. Ok...Who said political prisoner? Who said Batman? Where is the Russian propaganda? Adduce the...
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 11:50 AM
Mar 2022

evidence, please.

It does not make your argument is valid just because you present strongly felt (but so far fact-free) allegations and objections to his whistle-blowing.

Are you even familiar with the situation?

Are you fine with the level of spying that the NSA is/was doing in the US?

In what world do you think that the NSA's malfeasance would have been addressed if Snowden had not done
what he did?

I'm open to your arguments if you can prove them. My guess is that you cannot, but I'll remain open.


xocetaceans

(4,345 posts)
44. Furthermore: NSA data collection ruled illegal and upheld by a court of appeals...
Thu Mar 24, 2022, 12:12 PM
Mar 2022
NSA Bulk Phone Data Collection Unlawful, Appeals Court Rules
By Elliot Setzer
Thursday, September 3, 2020, 11:21 AM

The National Security Agency’s bulk collection of Americans’ phone records was unlawful, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled on Sept. 2.

A unanimous three-judge panel for the Ninth Circuit found that the warrantless collection of call metadata violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and was possibly unconstitutional under the Fourth Amendment. The NSA’s call-records program officially ended in 2015 after Congress passed the USA FREEDOM Act.
...

https://www.lawfareblog.com/nsa-bulk-phone-data-collection-unlawful-appeals-court-rules


Is it to be inferred that your position is that the NSA's bulk data collection is actually legal?

If that is not your position, do you prefer that the governmental agencies of the US remain within their legal bounds?

How do you imagine that that could be accomplished?

Martin68

(27,064 posts)
33. moonscape, I have fallen pry to a misunderstanding of my liberal use of irony. Sorry I did that to
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 12:13 PM
Mar 2022

you!

Martin68

(27,064 posts)
36. I like most emojis, but that "Sarcasm" one insults one's intelligence.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 03:10 PM
Mar 2022

Don't stop sharing sly or subtle irony, even if it occasionally misfires.

 

Luizy

(43 posts)
29. Snowden himself proves your excuse wrong
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 08:12 AM
Mar 2022

You say Snowden was simply talking about the exact date of the invasion.
But in a subsequent hissy faith, Snowden himself said he "called it wrong".


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Martin68

(27,064 posts)
22. Edward Snowdon, consider yourself dunked.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 09:05 PM
Mar 2022

Now what do you hav to say for yourself? Are you still sure about who are the bad guys and sho are the good guys?

betsuni

(28,719 posts)
25. "There may never be a safer election in which to vote for a third option" he said in 2016.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 09:53 PM
Mar 2022

He can't tell who the good guys and bad guys are. During the Obama administration we constantly heard about government surveillance, drone warfare, bombing weddings, warmongering, empire building etc., and all those topics completely disappeared after Trump was elected. Not a peep! All I've ever heard Snowden say about the Trump administration were observations about Trump's personality. Anybody know if he's attributed many diabolical plots to Republicans? I tried Googling but the only criticism I could find was about Trump not pardoning him.

Now he thinks Biden is some sort of IC puppet warmonger. It's not even both sides. It's all about demonizing Democrats.

And I don't believe his story about "accidentally" ending up in Russia because Obama was, like, so mean. Bullshit.


Martin68

(27,064 posts)
26. I've been blind-sided by friends who I thought were liberals and are now taking Russia's side,
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:08 PM
Mar 2022

Assange's side, and China's side. I don't get it. Is it a knee-jerk distrust of the American government? Just an automatic contrarian view of world events? Or is there a hidden authoritarian side in many so-called "liberals?" It's like Firesign Theatre's "Everything you know is Wrong has become mainstream.

betsuni

(28,719 posts)
28. From 2014 on I saw friends sucked into the anti-American pro-Russian propaganda
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:50 AM
Mar 2022

(anti-American meaning anti-Democratic Party, believing liberals/Democrats the true roadblock to progress and corrupted by campaign contributions), believing every lie and conspiracy theory about Democrats because no giving the benefit of the doubt to Democrats, ever, they're evil. Extremely disappointing. All of them were highly educated. Educated doesn't mean they have any damn common sense. They wanted to be part of a holier-than-thou club.

FakeNoose

(40,191 posts)
32. He retracted it and apologized for the error
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 11:13 AM
Mar 2022

Does this erroneous tweet deserve the bandwidth we're giving it now?

Probably not.

Martin68

(27,064 posts)
34. I believe the tweet betrays Snowden's bias against the Democratic Party, as other have
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 12:16 PM
Mar 2022

suggested above. I still appreciate the information he shared with us about the Iraq war and the federal government overstepping constitutional boundaries protecting our privacy.

Response to FakeNoose (Reply #32)

 

Luizy

(43 posts)
38. You should have said "spectacularly erroneous"
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 03:38 PM
Mar 2022

If Russia had not invaded, Snowden lovers would have given this tweet enormous "bandwidth" in the form of "Edward told you so" comments.

By the way, Snowden said he would have been "spectacularly wrong" if Russia invaded. You conveniently erased that spectacularly qualifier. I understand why you did it. If you admit that Snowden was spectacularly wrong, then you have less room to talk about too much "bandwidth".

mathematic

(1,602 posts)
39. You retract a tweet by deleting it, he didn't. Also, where did he apologize?
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 03:51 PM
Mar 2022

I don't follow Snowden's every tweet so I didn't see the one where he apologized. I want to judge the quality of this apology myself. Too many people offer non-apology apologies.

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