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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsReminder: National debt caused by Republicans
Romney and Republicans are harping on Obama for not paying off their credit card splurge.
Reminder:
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/steve_clemons/assets_c/2012/10/Total%20Increase%20in%20debt%20to%20GDP%20overall-103309.php
Like fratboys 'the morning after' who complain about the help making noise cleaning up...
"Turn of the damn vacuum! And stop clanking those bottles dammit!"
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/gop-presidents-have-been-the-worst-contributors-to-the-federal-debt/264193/
Republicans make this case and the media never challenges them on their BS.
Democratopia
(552 posts)The Democrats are very bad at marketing their achievements and quashing Republican lies, which become fact to most people.
upi402
(16,854 posts)Why do we respond in defense and fail to pin the blame on Republicans where it belongs.
Even MSNBC plays BS lines unchallenged ie: there is gridlock in Washington therefore Obama needs to go.
Time after time. I try to avoid propaganda but can't seem to!
ugh
hughee99
(16,113 posts)The House under Raygun was run by Dems for all 8 years. The house under Clinton was Repuke for 6 of his 8. I'm not saying repukes still aren't largely responsible for the debt, but blaming the debt strictly on the presidents seems to be a little misleading.
upi402
(16,854 posts)The Democratic losses in the Senate in 1980 were:
U.S. Sen. George S. McGovern (D-S.D.) (3 terms) lost to U.S. Rep. James Abdnor (R-S.D.)
U.S. Sen. Warren G. Magnuson (D-Wash.) (6 terms) lost to Republican T. Slade Gorton III.
U.S. Sen. Gaylord A. Nelson (D-Wis.) (3 terms) lost to Republican Robert W. Kasten Jr..
U.S. Sen. John A. Durkin (D-N.H.) (1 term) lost to Republican Warren B. Rudman. Durkin resigned his seat in December and Rudman was appointed to fill out the remaining few days of Durkin's term.
U.S. Sen. John C. Culver (D-Iowa) (1 term) lost to Republican Charles E. Grassley.
U.S. Sen. Birch E. Bayh II (D-Ind.) (3 terms) lost to J. Danforth Quayle.
U.S. Sen. Frank F. Church (D-Idaho) (4 terms) lost to Republican Steven D. Symms.
U.S. Sen. Herman E. Talmadge (D-Ga.) (4 terms) lost to Republican Mack F. Mattingly.
U.S. Sen. Richard B. Stone (D-Fla.) (1 term) lost in the Democratic primary to William D. Gunter Jr.. Gunter lost the general election to Republican Paula Hawkins.
U.S. Sen. Maurice R. "Mike" Gravel (D-Alaska) (2 terms), the senator who in 1971 had entered the full text of the Pentagon Papers into the official record of the Senate Subcommittee of Public Buildings and Grounds, was unexpectedly defeated in the Democratic primary by Clark Gruening. Gruening was the grandson of Ernest Gruening, the incumbent Democrat whom Gravel had unseated in the 1968 Democratic primary. The younger Gruening lost the general election to Republican Frank H. Murkowski.
U.S. Sen. Donald W. Stewart (D-Ala.) (1 term) lost in the Democratic primary to James E. Folsom Jr.. Folsom lost the general election to Republican Jeremiah A. Denton Jr..
U.S. Sen. Robert B. Morgan (D-N.C.) (1 term) lost to Republican John P. East.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)and all spending bills had to go through there.
upi402
(16,854 posts)John Kennedy 12 9 21 0 0% 0%
Lyndon Johnson 16 14 30 0 0% 0%
Richard Nixon 26 17 43 7 16% 27%
Gerald Ford 48 18 66 12 18% 25%
Jimmy Carter 13 18 31 2 6% 15%
Ronald Reagan 39 39 78 9 12% 23%
Geo. HW Bush[3][4] 29 15 44 1 2% 2%
Bill Clinton 36 1 37 2 5% 6%
George W. Bush 11 1 12 4 33% 36%
Barack Obama 2 0 2 0 0% 0%
Republicans won 35 House seats on Reagan's coat tails -and began to tame the survivors.
They originate in the House, have to get through the Senate, then need to be signed into law by the President. No?
Another graph;
hughee99
(16,113 posts)and being able to veto a budget isn't nearly the same thing as writing one yourself.