Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
7 Point Shift! (+3 Approve -4 Disapprove) Obama over 50% again w/Gallup Approval/Disapproval today (Original Post) trailmonkee Oct 2012 OP
"Is Gallup there?" tbennett76 Oct 2012 #1
Now that was comedy GOLD!!! Tutonic Oct 2012 #4
Strange Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #2
I have noticed that there hasn't been. It's strange. I think some people want change... Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #3
In my opinion, Gallup is unreliable... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #5
Gallup Will Become More Reality Based as Election Nears Indykatie Oct 2012 #6
That's exactly right... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #7
I was called in that time period ! yellowdogintexas Oct 2012 #8
Thanks! trailmonkee Oct 2012 #10
A multi-day tracking poll that bounces around like that isn't worth s***. reformist2 Oct 2012 #9

Wildcat1955

(69 posts)
2. Strange
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:21 PM
Oct 2012

Yet, he loses a percentage point in likely voters. Intuitively, one would think there would be a positive correlation between approval and preference.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
3. I have noticed that there hasn't been. It's strange. I think some people want change...
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:23 PM
Oct 2012

regardless of whether they approve of Obama's job. And some people don't, even if they don't approve of the job he's doing. Strange.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
5. In my opinion, Gallup is unreliable...
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:34 PM
Oct 2012

... And not to be trusted.

They seem to be a tool used to validate Republican talking points--while most polls show very different results.

Gallup has Zromney leading Obama with likey voters by 7 points. I do not believe that at all.

They can fiddle with these national numbers all they want. What matters is the state polls in key swing states.

Obama is ahead in nearly every critical swing state, and tied in a couple. Obama keeps trending ahead in these state polls. He has a 4 point lead now in VA; an a solid 3 point lead in OH.

Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
6. Gallup Will Become More Reality Based as Election Nears
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:53 PM
Oct 2012

as will other repub leaning pollsters. They don't want to be tagged as being outliers in the end. I don't think the polls are tightening I think Gallup has screwed around with the LV methodology to yield so wide a gap between PBO approval numbers and the head to head race.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
7. That's exactly right...
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:31 PM
Oct 2012

...and it's a relief to see that others see through Gallup and Rasmussen and their tactics. It is very clear. But so many don't see it. One clue was Mitt's manufactured "momentum." It was a last-gasp attempt to tighten the swing states before e-day.

As you explained, these pollsters can't lose all credibility. As e-day draws near, they have to work their numbers back to reality. If they're too far off in the days before the election, people will remember and the poll's credibility is be tainted.

These polls can only be used as propaganda tools for so long. If anything, all of this (especially the manufactured momentum) is a real clue that Romney is losing and he knows he's losing. Same with all of the bluffing about close polls. It's getting ridiculous at this point, but you can't fault them for trying, I guess.

I agree with you, that most of the national polls will continue to move in Obama's favor--back to reality.

I'll never understand how the right bamboozled their fans into putting so much stock in the national polls anyway. They hang onto them like toddlers with pacifiers. It's the state polls that matter. And clearly, Obama is ahead in most of the swing states, and he will win Ohio.

Thanks for your thoughts. I look forward to watching all of these polls move upward for Obama.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»7 Point Shift! (+3 Approv...