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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:59 PM Oct 2012

Florida early vote totals revised, raising questions

http://thegrio.com/2012/10/29/florida-early-vote-totals-revised-raising-questions/

Broward is a Democratic stronghold that Barack Obama is expected to carry by a large margin. But initial early vote totals reported by the office of the Broward Supervisor of Elections changed on Sunday, in some cases dramatically, causing some to question the numbers.

An analysis of the unofficial totals by early voting location on the Broward Supervisor of Elections website from Saturday, compared to the tallies posted on Sunday, shows that in one location, the E. Pat Larkins Community Center, located on Martin Luther King Blvd. in Pompano Beach, the revised totals showed 1,003 fewer votes. The initial tally reported from the polling place in the heavily black neighborhood showed 2,945 votes, but the revised tally was 1,401. Across the 17 Broward polling locations, 15 saw their vote totals revised, mostly by minute amounts of between 1 and 7 votes. But the three more significant changes, including the addition of 398 votes in Tamarac (a racially mixed community) and adding 99 votes to the totals from Pompano Beach City Hall, whose demographic is majority white.

The revisions mean that 536 fewer total votes were reported in Broward — a reduction from 28,330 votes to 27,794 votes. That could be significant in a close election in a state where the presidential contest was decided by just 538 votes in 2000.


And so it begins?
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Florida early vote totals revised, raising questions (Original Post) justiceischeap Oct 2012 OP
WTF?! Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #1
If no one does anything each time an election is blatantly stolen, what possible reason is there villager Oct 2012 #2
Jesus, there is already evidence they are stealing this election TOO! liberal N proud Oct 2012 #3
But we'll catch them redhanded eventually. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #7
Will it be in time to save the nation? liberal N proud Oct 2012 #9
Obama is going to win this election. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #11
I heard the Obama campaign have their lawyers ready if such an event happens. Drab Oct 2012 #4
For a place that hates Castro/communism, they sure emulate him/it. n/t n2doc Oct 2012 #5
As Uncle Joe once said: formercia Oct 2012 #8
Someone needs to get in there and get an explanationl Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #6
Mary Cooney? That names sounds familiar from the Gore fiasco..... progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #10
I don't get it... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #12
"Oops, sorry bout that...." marions ghost Oct 2012 #13
Another "computer glitch" that targets Democratic voters. pa28 Oct 2012 #14
We can't go on like this. Looks like it's too late to ecstatic Oct 2012 #15
If Romney wins formercia Oct 2012 #16
Measures have been thwarted at every turn siligut Oct 2012 #18
I don't understand why more elected officials aren't concerned ecstatic Oct 2012 #19
Now, don't go all crazy talk on us here siligut Oct 2012 #23
i am an accountant. there is no way in hell i could "revise" a number from 2,945 to 1401 noiretextatique Oct 2012 #17
WTF!? Blueprogress Oct 2012 #20
They are just starting to make up for the votes they won't be able to steal because of Sandy siligut Oct 2012 #21
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #22
When articles start citing Florida counties I get a pain in the pit of my stomach nt tandem5 Oct 2012 #24
Mob the polls takes a hurting when they can just "revise down" TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #25
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
2. If no one does anything each time an election is blatantly stolen, what possible reason is there
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:02 PM
Oct 2012

...for them not to steal it again and again?

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
9. Will it be in time to save the nation?
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:18 PM
Oct 2012

She can't take too much more of what we had through Reagan and 2 Bushs.

Baitball Blogger

(46,714 posts)
11. Obama is going to win this election.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:24 PM
Oct 2012

Then he's going to get a rare opportunity to clean up the problem. If he does it, he might be able to clean up the networks in Florida which make this election uncertainty in Florida a recurring nightmare. But it will be tough, because this kind of dirty tricks doesn't last this long without there being something going on between parties.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
10. Mary Cooney? That names sounds familiar from the Gore fiasco.....
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:18 PM
Oct 2012

Anyone else remember her?? She's "looking into" the missing votes.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
12. I don't get it...
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:25 PM
Oct 2012

Don't most election processes have Democrats and Republicans making these counts?

Or does Karl Rove get to sit alone in a room, determine the numbers and then report them?

I don't see how this happens?

Everyone knows that Florida has been a disaster, when it comes to voting. I can't believe that they could get away with revisions like this.

Boggles the mind.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
13. "Oops, sorry bout that...."
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:37 PM
Oct 2012


“There could be a very simple explanation. I have no idea,” said David Brown, a political consultant who is working for three Broward candidates, and who downloaded the Sunday early vote totals Sunday morning, only to be asked later by a colleague for the numbers, which he retrieved from his phone. When he looked at the revised totals, the Pat Larkins number stood out. “Almost every one of the precincts changed,” Brown said. “Some by two or three, one by about 100. But the Pat Larkins Center, that’s more than a thousand votes. I’m curious why.”

Brown said that when he inquired about the numbers, he was told by the elections office that the changes had resulted from a “computer glitch.”

Broward SOE spokesperson Mary Cooney acknowledged that the Sunday totals were revised, and said she would look into why.

“I can’t tell you definitively now,” Cooney said, “but I queried the person who posts those numbers and the most significant number he told me he changed was an instance where 1050 should have been 1150 — the numbers were transposed.”

Cooney said that the process for posting election results is that one individual receives the data from the polling places, which call in their results when polls close. Then a second individual posts all of the results to the elections website.

Broward Supervisor of Elections Dr. Brenda Snipes could not be reached for comment
(from the OP's link)

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And so now--can we RECOUNT those precincts? Seems like there's plenty of time .......IF there's a paper trail.....

pa28

(6,145 posts)
14. Another "computer glitch" that targets Democratic voters.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:37 PM
Oct 2012

What a coincidence.

Seriously though, I hope somebody with knowledge of their process chimes in here. If the votes were tabulated and then sent in the precinct people should be able to double check this.

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
15. We can't go on like this. Looks like it's too late to
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:41 PM
Oct 2012

do something about this election, but how can we make sure all voting machines have a paper trail before 2014?

siligut

(12,272 posts)
18. Measures have been thwarted at every turn
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:10 PM
Oct 2012

Do you really think this hasn't been required? The problem is that the states are in control and when we find laws that can trump that, they drag it out in court and then a judge throws it out EFT.

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
19. I don't understand why more elected officials aren't concerned
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:38 PM
Oct 2012

It almost lends credence to the conspiracy theorists who think that elections are predetermined by the bilderberg group or whoever.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
23. Now, don't go all crazy talk on us here
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:19 PM
Oct 2012

There appears to be a fair amount of collusion in the Republican party actually.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
17. i am an accountant. there is no way in hell i could "revise" a number from 2,945 to 1401
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:01 PM
Oct 2012

without an explanation, audit trail, backup, etc. this is bullshit.

Blueprogress

(64 posts)
20. WTF!?
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:44 PM
Oct 2012

I live in Broward, this bullshit. What does Snipes have to say about this? I am texting this article to everyone I know. BS.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
21. They are just starting to make up for the votes they won't be able to steal because of Sandy
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:15 PM
Oct 2012

With power outages, the DRE machines aren't going to be used, so they can't flip votes. Now they need FLA, because PA, VA and OH aren't guaranteed.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
25. Mob the polls takes a hurting when they can just "revise down"
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:41 PM
Oct 2012

We need more than just hollering "GOTV" to deal with this kind of scenario.

The more they get away with the more they'll steal, edit, or delete until the actual numbers don't matter anymore.
We have a situation that threatens the democratic process to the roots here.

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