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Mon Apr 18, 2022, 03:54 PM

Trauma and evolution

Nature is a traumatizing force be it tornados and tidal waves or the awfulness prey and predators, domination and submission between rivals ,illnesses, starvation,suffering and war/ violence.

Living beings do not like or want to be traumatized. They will avoid it and try to teach thier young to avoid it too..Trauma harms the chances of survival because of the damage it does to body and mind. It kills.

So I think we started agriculture,formed tribes and built civilization to avoid nature caused trauma.
Medicine was invented to alleviate suffering( trauma) of injury or illness.
We have agriculture and farms to avoid the trauma of starvation.

But we haven't figured out what to do about humans who inflict trauma on others or the things that are not harmful to survival deliberately.( Dark triads) who interfere with survivability of other individuals as well as civilization and the planet and everything on it.

Even if we stopped global climate change
and rebuilt an equitable sustainable society we would find ourselves right back here again in time if we do nothing about dark triad personalities and keep on giving them status, influence, money and positions of power and do not teach everyone else how to identify, how to avoid and disempower dark triads and why. We need to make them become harmless. We need to "innoculate" ourselves and each other from them.
We need to protect the planet from them.

Existance is traumatizing enough as it is.
We dont need to add to it.

Our survival and that of this planet depends on dealing with dark triads and stopping the monsters among us in human suits inflicting trauma just because they can and because they think we will do nothing and just let them do it again and again,they think they know more than anyone and are smarter than everyone. We need to do something more foolproof about the dark triad. Something lasting to fix the situation. Be it an abusive personal relationship or how they abuse other living beings or how they abuse the planet.


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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Original post)

Mon Apr 18, 2022, 04:04 PM

1. And some invent religion or other mysticisms to deal with trauma, life and death

Depending on the belief system, many of the worst parts of life can be explained away by saying "it's the lord's will". You will reap your just deserts in the future. Don't complain about abuse - you are the children of god. The meek will inherit nothing.

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Response to erronis (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 18, 2022, 05:13 PM

2. Dont get attached to the world some

Beliefs say,while they admit the suffering
Denial about how trauma hurts you in the name of "strength" does not help either.
I dissociate a lot,so I am pretty damn detached.

Mindfulness which some swear by is a practice but it has its limits. Sometimes certain injuries or traumas make it impossible except for intermittent short periods its not a cure,at best its a bandaid.
Some people have better band aids than others. Mindfulness is a psychologists trend right now,before it was recovered memories etc. Every generation has its psychological band aids and trends that over time get changed.

Making resilience where it's not that is basically a mind fuck that says what dosen't kill me
Makes me stronger...that approach only goes so far
Until it too becomes a farce.

I'll give you really something to cry about
or what about people sicker than you are.. that mind game never works.

Basically the treatment for trauma sucks.

Everyone is different what helps one doesn't help another.

And so far there is no cure for some that suffer trauma. Because certain types of trauma are easier to deal with. Does not mean what helps you will help me. But so many people push this idea it has become rigid.. It's so much like the rich guy saying I was too poor like you and I got rich this way,so do it like me and you will get rich too,bullshit. That what's good for the goose is good for the gander is horseshit too.

I wish there was an answer. We as a species isnt there yet. And there is so much of it tied up in belief systems.

The people rescuing animals do thier part to reduce trauma in the animal world. They do a good thing.

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 01:49 PM

3. What a lot of profound things you say in your posts! I appreciate your thoughfulness

and your obvious caring and obvious experience with trauma.

For what it's worth, in my 70+ years I don't feel like I've experienced trauma at the level that I know many people have. Divorces, family and friends deaths, some financial woes. But I chalk these up to the normal cycle of life. I do know many people in my daily volunteering who have had very rough lives and seemingly dark futures. But they also show (or try to show) a sense of hopefulness.

My best wishes to you and I hope that we can all learn from one another.

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Response to erronis (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 07:38 PM

4. Thanks

I appreciate what you said

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