Technically it's no longer a hurricane. Meet Vortex Sandy:

[Are_grits_groceries]

@MerrittJennifer:
Weather Channel saying this may no longer technically be a hurricane. But a giant vortex of air pushing water & wind on NJ/NY

I want my hurricane back!

[JustAnotherGen]

1. I want neither

Give me snow. Seriously - we could just push snow out of our way. Water - we are just going to have to wait to recede.

[Are_grits_groceries]

2. Well, you are going to get your wish.

There will be a blizzard in some places.

[nichomachus]

3. Really? Were you around in 1978?

Blizzard of 78

Boston and Providence recorded all-time highs for 24-hour and storm snowfall records.[3] Many people were left without heat, water, food, and electricity for over a week after the storm finished. Approximately 10,000 people were forced to move temporarily into emergency shelters. Some 2,500 houses were reported seriously damaged or destroyed and 54 people were killed, many from fallen electric wires. Several people were found dead in downtown Providence, particularly in the vicinity of the central police station, who may have died trying to seek shelter. Ten-year-old Peter Gosselin, of Uxbridge, Massachusetts, disappeared in the deep snow just feet from his home's front door but was not found until three weeks later.[10] The majority of the interstate system had to be shut down, with some stretches not reopening to traffic until the following week. Air and rail traffic also had to be shut down until the situation cleared up.

Because the snowfall rates were so high, plows could not keep up with removal as fresh amounts fell, causing it to pile up too high to be plowed easily. Plows were further hampered by the number of cars stuck on the roads because of the heavy snow. In Boston, the snow drifts and levels were so high that the city's sanitation department was overwhelmed, as there was no more room to put the snow, so much of the snow had to be hauled and dumped in nearby harbors. Throughout the region, the high winds caused enormous drifts.

A state of emergency was declared by governors in the affected states and the United States National Guard was called out to help clear the roads. Additional troops were flown into Boston to assist. It took six days to clear the roads as cars and trucks buried under the snow needed to be removed before the routes could be opened. The blizzard brought out a feeling of camaraderie, as it affected everyone equally. Neighbors assisted each other, using sleds to transport elderly persons and helping to deliver groceries for those in need. Governor Ella Grasso ordered all roads in Connecticut closed except for emergency travel, effectively shutting down the state for three days; Governor Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts did the same.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. Yep

I was - in Rochester NY.

I also lived there for 30 years with time off for good behavior while at University 60 miles down the road in Buffalo.

And my Senior Year of high school we were without power during the ice storm of 1991.


I've never seen friends lose their homes, boats (friend whose significant other lens fishing boats docked in Atlantic City), etc etc from a massive Lake Effect snow event or blizzard. Rochester is looking pretty good right now. I miss home - and this mess makes me miss it all that much more.


I got my learners permit February 13, 1989. My dad took me out that night on a twisty windy road during a massive lake effect snow event that started that night in a pick up truck that wasn't weighted in he back. He said - this is the absolute worst you will ever have to drive in.

Wrong - I've had two major near misses of my life in cars in my life - and those were in thunderstorms.

Give me a blizzard - I hate this shit. And I hate knowing I have my adopted tri state family in such misery. Friends in Midtown, Chelsea, Bergen County, Atlantic County, Union . . .


ETA - this my friend Jeff and his wife - and Dougbug and his family.

http://wkzo.com/news/articles/2012/oct/30/levee-breaks-in-northern-new-jersey-floods-three-towns/

[nichomachus]

9. Rochester is a long way from Boston

The Boston area was devastated in 78 -- even as close as western Mass. got only a few flakes. The situation in Boston and surrounding areas was pretty close to what people are going through in NY-NJ right now. The difference is that some places that were flooded in NY last night are above water now. The snow in Boston stayed for weeks. And the snow, ice, and low temperatures made repairs extremely difficult. Recovery took a long time.

[HopeHoops]

4. Link? I didn't see that.

[Are_grits_groceries]

5. No links with tweets at times. nt

[Barack_America]

6. Still speculation.

[Renew Deal]

8. A Hurricane warning was never issued for NY/NJ

This has been their position for days.