Looks like the storm in the ocean just died...

[snooper2]

[darkangel218]

1. Yup,.great news! phew!

I just heard it on CNN

[CoffeeCat]

2. Has Sandy weakened (nt)

[darkangel218]

21. CNN said that half of the storm has already made landfall

And the other half which is over the ocean is really weak. So good news!

[Barack_America]

36. Still a hurricane according to NOAA. Another CNN fail.

Might not be much moisture left over the ocean, but plenty of wind to move water inland with the tide.

[snooper2]

3. I've been streaming it all day and it was huge storm

closing in on coast, closing in,,, making landfall..

Now that you look at the radar and it's just collapsed out in the ocean...

I guess just rain and snow inland now...

[nichomachus]

4. It's not dead. It's not technically a hurricane any more, but still a killer storm.

[meow2u3]

5. You must be in the eye

Mark my word. Winds will pick up, and when they do, they'll howl!

[progressivebydesign]

31. No CNN meteorologist said it collapsed IN the ocean. nt

[meow2u3]

44. Who said it? Wolf Blitzer?

[-LOKI -BAD FOR YA]

60. we are to believe cnn,

this is proofs if people do not trust the news stations.what can happen in an emergency

[Blue Meany]

6. Fox News: Obama turned of his weather machine so he can go back to campaigning...n/t

[bluestate10]

13. Are you sure Obama didn't pray to Allah? Fox will come up with the truth. nt

[Zalatix]

62. You two ought to be careful, Fox Noise might just use that and start a riot.

[Hugabear]

7. What do you mean, "just died"?

How does a massive storm like Sandy "just die"?

[snooper2]

18. I'm talking about the tracking radar they have been showing for three days straight..

looked like the eastern wall collapsed...

check CNN radar

[Ghost Dog]

51. The radar sees moisture. The Eastern side is dry air...

moving fast:

[snooper2]

57. Thank you, the most informative post of this thread

Posting real time what one is watching on CNN and people go bezerk LOL...


It's almost like I said I took my pitbull into Olive garden while packing with my CCL and ate a medium rare steak while calling Ann Coulter a bitch

[CreekDog]

8. storm surge doesn't care if it was downgraded to a Tropical Storm

in fact, a Tropical Storm was always anticipated.

[ohheckyeah]

12. I've been through numerous

hurricanes but the worst storm I ever went through was Tropical Storm Dennis.

[Hugabear]

14. Tropical Storm Faye was pretty bad

It might not have packed the devastating punch of Charlie or Andrew, but it made up for it in the amount of rainfall it produced.

[ohheckyeah]

47. That's what the problem was with TS Dennis.

The parking lot of the apartment complex where I lived had 2 feet of water.

[Lex]

9. link?

[qanda]

10. Well, it's still going on in my front yard

[1StrongBlackMan]

11. Maybe ...

There IS something to the gop's "President Obama is the Messiah/The One" narrative!

[eShirl]

15. It's merely pinin' for the fjords.

[graham4anything]

16. What??? The bad stuff isn't going to happen in NY/NJ/CT/Mass for another hour yet

it's the calm before the storm

6pm to midnight is suppose to be bad.

[progressivebydesign]

34. CNN reported that the storm was collapsing in the ocean, has nothing to do with calm befor the storm

.That Is the storm. It'll still be a horrid tropical storm, but sounds like they are saying that the second half of the storm, out in the sea, has collapsed.

[graham4anything]

39. like they say the election is tied I guess. NO the wind/surge and the danger has not died out.

[progressivebydesign]

49. I give up. the point of the OP was that the storm IN THE OCEAN had collapsed. nt

[graham4anything]

50. but it is badly worded and can lead someone to think the danger has passed. You should edit

You should edit the title as people looking in might say storm danger is over and go out and get into a bad situation HERE ON LAND

(after all, no one lives in the ocean)

[snooper2]

56. reading comprehension, "IN THE OCEAN"

subsequent posts of mine noted rain/snow inland....

Not my fault folks can't read and like to argue about anything they can on the Intertubes...


You mad bro?

[onenote]

64. Actually, you wrote "just" rain and snow. But the wind didn't just "die"

and to the extent that your post suggested that the "death" of the storm "in the ocean" left only snow and rain to deal with, it was wildly misleading.

[opiate69]

52. As well you should.

The news that the storm has begun to "fall apart" isn`t news to anybody who has a modicum of knowlege about hurricanes. It`s what they do when they get over cool water and/or land. The OP, as well as subsequent posts by snooper and others, clearly implied (if not flat out stated) that the worst was over. This is demonstrably false, as a casual perusing of the NOAA website will attest to.

[Ellipsis]

17. .

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201218_radar.html

[ProudProgressiveNow]

27. Checked out the link!

I think it is showing rain.

[Ellipsis]

41. wind map.... checkout manhatten

http://hint.fm/wind/

[rollin74]

19. CNN meteorologist said that the worst of the storm has already happened

and what is left of Sandy offshore has relatively little wind or rain with it

he suggested wind conditions should begin dying down for most areas over the next few hours

[darkangel218]

25. yes. nt

[qanda]

20. Can you please explain this post?

There are people in the path of this storm that really need to remain informed and this drive-by post is not helping.

[snooper2]

23. have you read all the other posts in the thread?

they are all watching the same CNN I am

[qanda]

26. The most informative one was posted about the same time I posted.

Perhaps you can add that information to your OP. Thanks

[RichGirl]

28. Anyone in harms way....

Probably shouldn't be getting weather updates from DU!

[qanda]

32. That's really not the point

Is it? Misinformation or incomplete information does not add to our ability to fully understand what is happening and how it will affect what we've already been told about our current circumstances. I'm just asking the OP to clarify what they're saying. Is that too much to ask?

[CreekDog]

22. Your OP is fail

no offense, but seriously.

[cali]

24. this is not helpful.

Flooding is rampant. high winds are producing damage and power outages. This storm most certainly has not died.

Don't post bullshit at times like this.

[progressivebydesign]

29. read the posts.

. CNN meteorologist said that the worst of the storm has already happened

and what is left of Sandy offshore has relatively little wind or rain with it

he suggested wind conditions should begin dying down for most areas over the next few hours

[dems_rightnow]

38. Agree completely

Yet someone felt so strongly they reported your comment. LOL

[mfcorey1]

33. That must be the eye you are in. The backside is coming and it is often more

destructive. Take care.

[progressivebydesign]

37. Ack. Did everyone actually read this thread? The CNN meteorologist showed the storm collapse offshor

this was not some poster saying "hey, it's not too bad here!!" It was something that many people saw on CNN, themselves, with radar, showing that things have changed offshore, as far as what is still coming ashore.

[qanda]

40. Why should anyone have to read an entire thread

To try to figure out what a poster is talking about. Ridiculous!

[snooper2]

58. math is hard too

[muriel_volestrangler]

61. Are you saying the winds at sea are all normal now?

We have to ask, because you've been remarkably uninformative in the thread.

[Brewinblue]

35. WTF?!

I'm watching The Weather Channel, and there is zero talk of the storm dying, or even weakening. Landfall should be in New Jersey at 6:00 PM EDT. Massive flooding is till expected.

[progressivebydesign]

46. oddly enough, Weather Channel is only updating their info every 6 hours.

Next update is 11pm. that seems weird, but that's what's on their front page, they only update every 6 hours. But yeah, they have plenty of videos of guys in raincoats being blown over. Almost impossible to find any current radar on their site now. CNN has some but you have to sit thru an ad every time.

I just looked at radar on CNN and I can't seem to find the storm offshore anymore. What is onshore, of course, is nasty!! But Also not seeing the dark red cells anymore.. mostly green. Trying to find some sort of real update on it now, but I think that the news is lagging a bit.

[reformist2]

42. Dumbest. thread. title. ever. (Can I say that?)

[russspeakeasy]

54. You can say that and I would agree.

[lynne]

43. Would refer readers to noaa.gov for current data -

- as there's been some misunderstanding by the OP on what CNN was talking about. Or the OP was watching the new Onion Weather Report.

She's not yet hit land, she's moving as before, the threat of flooding and high winds is more severe now than ever with her coming ashore. Current CNN headline say's she's 40 miles south of Atlantic City, not yet on land. Obviously a misunderstanding by or of CNN.

[qanda]

45. Thanks for your post.

This thread should be deleted.

[progressivebydesign]

48. if you look at the radar on CNN, after sitting thru an ad, you'll see what the CNN guy meant. nt

[lynne]

53. I watched it twice and have no clue what anyone was talking about -

- and I've been through every mid-atlantic hurricane since the early 1960's. Are you talking about how the east side of the rotation gets a bit feathery? If so, that's normal. Go to youtube and look up satellite images of hurricane Irene which was in much the same area. You see similar clouds. They tighten in the rotation and then feather out again on the east side. That has nothing to do with it ending because - trust me - this puppy isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

[onenote]

55. i live on a residential lake

we're not at risk of flooding, but its easy to tell when a storm is strengthening or weakening by the movement of the water -- is it whitecapping, is it overflowing sea walls.

If this storm has died in the past hour, no one told it, because it is more intense now than at any time today.

[OldDem2012]

59. Come on....do some homework before posting stuff like this....

....does this sound like "the storm in the ocean just died"??

-------------------------------------------------------------------

000
WTNT33 KNHC 292058
TCPAT3

BULLETIN
HURRICANE SANDY ADVISORY NUMBER 30
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL182012
500 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012

...SANDY MOVING QUICKLY TOWARD SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY AND DELAWARE...
...LANDFALL EXPECTED EARLY THIS EVENING ACCOMPANIED BY
LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE AND HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS...


SUMMARY OF 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...38.8N 74.4W
ABOUT 30 MI...45 KM ESE OF CAPE MAY NEW JERSEY
ABOUT 40 MI...65 KM S OF ATLANTIC CITY NEW JERSEY
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...90 MPH...150 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 28 MPH...44 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...940 MB...27.76 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY...

ALL TROPICAL STORM WARNINGS FOR EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA HAVE BEEN
DISCONTINUED.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

THERE ARE NO COASTAL TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS IN EFFECT.

HOWEVER...THERE ARE NON-TROPICAL HIGH-WIND WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR
PORTIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NEW ENGLAND STATES. PLEASE SEE
STATEMENTS FROM LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICES.

HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED ALONG PORTIONS OF THE COAST
BETWEEN CHINCOTEAGUE VIRGINIA AND CHATHAM MASSACHUSETTS. THIS
INCLUDES THE TIDAL POTOMAC FROM COBB ISLAND TO SMITH POINT...THE
MIDDLE AND UPPER CHESAPEAKE BAY...DELAWARE BAY...AND THE COASTS OF
THE NORTHERN DELMARVA PENINSULA...NEW JERSEY...THE NEW YORK CITY
AREA...LONG ISLAND...CONNECTICUT...AND RHODE ISLAND.

TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED NORTH OF CHATHAM TO
MERRIMACK RIVER MASSACHUSETTS...THE LOWER CHESAPEAKE BAY...AND
SOUTH OF CHINCOTEAGUE TO EXTREME NORTHEASTERN NORTH CAROLINA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY
YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICE.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
AT 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE SANDY WAS LOCATED
BY AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT AND NOAA DOPPLER
WEATHER RADARS TO BE NEAR LATITUDE 38.8 NORTH...LONGITUDE 74.4 WEST.
SANDY IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 28 MPH...44 KM/H.
THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH THIS EVENING
UNTIL LANDFALL OCCURS. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER OF SANDY
IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL ALONG OR JUST SOUTH OF THE SOUTHERN
NEW JERSEY COAST WITHIN THE NEXT FEW HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 90 MPH...150 KM/H...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SANDY IS EXPECTED TO TRANSITION INTO A FRONTAL OR WINTERTIME
LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM SHORTLY. LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS EXPECTED
PRIOR TO LANDFALL. SANDY IS FORECAST TO WEAKEN AFTER LANDFALL.

HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 175 MILES...280 KM...FROM
THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO
485 MILES...780 KM. SUSTAINED WINDS TO TROPICAL STORM FORCE ARE
OCCURRING FROM SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND THROUGH LONG ISLAND AND LONG
ISLAND SOUND...AND SOUTHWARD ALONG THE COASTS OF NEW JERSEY...
DELAWARE...AND EASTERN VIRGINIA...AND INCLUDING ALL OF THE
CHESAPEAKE AND DELAWARE BAYS. HURRICANE-FORCE WIND GUSTS HAVE BEEN
REPORTED BY HAM RADIO OPERATORS ACROSS PORTIONS OF EXTREME
SOUTHEASTERN MASSACHUSETTS AND RHODE ISLAND. A HAM RADIO OPERATOR
RECENTLY REPORTED A SUSTAINED WIND OF 64 MPH...103 KM/H...WITH GUST
TO 86 MPH...138 KM/H IN WESTERLY RHODE ISLAND...AND ANOTHER HAM
RADIO OPERATOR REPORTED A WIND GUST TO 76 MPH...122 KM/H IN
BARNSTABLE MASSACHUSETTS.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE BASED ON REPORTS FROM THE
HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT IS 940 MB...27.76 INCHES.


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND...TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS ARE ALREADY OCCURRING OVER
PORTIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES FROM NORTH CAROLINA NORTHWARD
TO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND. GALE-FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE
TO SPREAD OVER OTHER PORTIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES OVER THE
NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS. HURRICANE-FORCE WIND GUSTS HAVE REACHED THE
SOUTHERN MASSACHUSETTS AND RHODE ISLAND. HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS ARE
EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY SPREAD ACROSS SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND AND
MID-ATLANTIC STATES...FROM CONNECTICUT SOUTHWARD TO NEW JERSEY AND
DELAWARE...INCLUDING NEW YORK CITY AND LONG ISLAND.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF
HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR
GROUND LEVEL.

STORM SURGE...THE COMBINATION OF AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS STORM SURGE
AND THE TIDE WILL CAUSE NORMALLY DRY AREAS NEAR THE COAST TO BE
FLOODED BY RISING WATERS. THE WATER COULD REACH THE FOLLOWING
DEPTHS ABOVE GROUND IF THE PEAK SURGE OCCURS AT THE TIME OF HIGH
TIDE...

NC NORTH OF SURF CITY INCLUDING PAMLICO/ALBEMARLE SOUNDS...3 TO 5 FT
SE VA AND DELMARVA INCLUDING LOWER CHESAPEAKE BAY...2 TO 4 FT
UPPER AND MIDDLE CHESAPEAKE BAY...1 TO 3 FT
LONG ISLAND SOUND...RARITAN BAY...AND NEW YORK HARBOR...6 TO 11 FT
ELSEWHERE FROM OCEAN CITY MD TO THE CT/RI BORDER...4 TO 8 FT
CT/RI BORDER TO THE SOUTH SHORE OF CAPE COD INCLUDING BUZZARDS
BAY AND NARRAGANSETT BAY...3 TO 6 FT
CAPE COD TO THE MA/NH BORDER INCLUDING CAPE COD BAY...2 TO 4 FT
MA/NH BORDER TO THE U.S./CANADA BORDER...1 TO 3 FT

SURGE-RELATED FLOODING DEPENDS ON THE RELATIVE TIMING OF THE SURGE
AND THE TIDAL CYCLE...AND CAN VARY GREATLY OVER SHORT DISTANCES.
GIVEN THE LARGE WIND FIELD ASSOCIATED WITH SANDY...ELEVATED WATER
LEVELS COULD SPAN MULTIPLE TIDE CYCLES RESULTING IN REPEATED AND
EXTENDED PERIODS OF COASTAL AND BAYSIDE FLOODING. IN ADDITION...
ELEVATED WATERS COULD OCCUR FAR REMOVED FROM THE CENTER OF SANDY.
FURTHERMORE...THESE CONDITIONS WILL OCCUR REGARDLESS OF WHETHER
SANDY IS A TROPICAL OR POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE. FOR INFORMATION
SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE SEE PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE.

RAINFALL...RAINFALL TOTALS OF 3 TO 6 INCHES ARE EXPECTED OVER FAR
NORTHEASTERN NORTH CAROLINA WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM TOTALS OF 8
INCHES POSSIBLE. RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE EXPECTED
OVER PORTIONS OF THE MID ATLANTIC STATES...INCLUDING THE DELMARVA
PENINSULA...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 12 INCHES POSSIBLE.
RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
5 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE FROM THE SOUTHERN TIER OF NEW YORK STATE
NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH NEW ENGLAND.

SNOWFALL..SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 2 TO 3 FEET ARE EXPECTED IN THE
MOUNTAINS OF WEST VIRGINIA WITH LOCALLY HIGHER TOTALS TODAY THROUGH
WEDNESDAY. SNOWFALL OF 1 TO 2 FEET IS EXPECTED IN THE MOUNTAINS OF
SOUTHWESTERN VIRGINIA TO THE KENTUCKY BORDER...WITH 12 TO 18 INCHES
OF SNOW EXPECTED IN THE MOUNTAINS NEAR THE NORTH CAROLINA/TENNESSEE
BORDER AND IN THE MOUNTAINS OF WESTERN MARYLAND.

SURF...DANGEROUS SURF CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE FROM FLORIDA THROUGH
NEW ENGLAND FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY...1100 PM EDT.
TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATES WILL BE ISSUED AT 700 AND 900 PM EDT...AND
WHEN LANDFALL OCCURS.

$$
FORECASTER STEWART

[Nye Bevan]

63. Or not (nt)