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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:48 PM Oct 2012

WOW! ABC NEWS: Hurricane Sandy: What Romney Says He'd Do to FEMA

Wow, MSM is actually doing a decent job focusing attention on this.... ABC does try to make a lame 'fairness' argument... but fails... this article is Bad for Romney... I hope many more follow.

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Hurricane Sandy: What Romney Says He'd Do to FEMA

Though the presidential campaigns have been focused on Hurricane Sandy, the politically sticky topic of disaster relief is making its way to the forefront.

With Sandy bearing down on the East Coast, supporters of President Barack Obama are saying that Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney would gut FEMA, leaving it incapable of handling a massive hurricane or tornado.

How would Romney handle FEMA if he was elected president?

In a June 13, 2011 GOP primary debate, Romney suggested that states should assume a more significant role in disaster relief. The debate took place soon after a tornado devastated Joplin, Missouri and other communities, and moderator John King of CNN asked Romney whether states should take on a greater role in paying to repair and rebuild.

"Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better," Romney said. "Instead of thinking in the federal budget, what we should cut -- we should ask ourselves the opposite question. What should we keep?"

When asked a follow up on whether disaster relief should shift to the states, Romney said: "We cannot -- we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids," he said.

"It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off," he added. "It makes no sense at all."

Romney did not go as far as some reports have suggested, which say he would shut down the agency entirely. But he has made it clear that he would shift more responsibility to the states or private agencies when it comes to disaster relief in an effort to reduce federal spending and the deficit.

"Gov. Romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their jurisdictions," said Romney campaign spokesman Yohana de la Torre. "As the first responders, states are in the best position to aid affected individuals and communities, and to direct resources and assistance to where they are needed most. This includes help from the federal government and FEMA."

Link to Article: http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/Politics/romney-cut-fema-president/story?id=17589353
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WOW! ABC NEWS: Hurricane Sandy: What Romney Says He'd Do to FEMA (Original Post) trailmonkee Oct 2012 OP
For the sake of our country, this has to be read by every American flamingdem Oct 2012 #1
All for want of another car elevator. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #2
k&r... spanone Oct 2012 #3
Boom. Kingofalldems Oct 2012 #4
Romney screws the government out of every nickel, dime and quarter BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #5
Mitt Romney Drowning in His Own FEMA Comments! ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #6
Perfect timing for our favorite lunkhead ffr Oct 2012 #7
I can't go that far. calimary Oct 2012 #23
States already have emergency services. He's talking privatizing FEMA. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #8
And no one's talking about how much higher state and local taxes would have to be raised calimary Oct 2012 #24
Romney believes Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #9
. trailmonkee Oct 2012 #20
Frankly these reports completely miss the point BlueStreak Oct 2012 #10
And so emergencies in Alabama and Mississippi would be poorly funded Patiod Oct 2012 #16
It won't go over too well. Bake Oct 2012 #21
Oh, no that's not what I'm suggesting! Patiod Oct 2012 #27
The most prosperous states can be overwhelmed. BlueStreak Oct 2012 #32
So true, emergencies don't! Respect state boundaries trailmonkee Oct 2012 #22
BINGO. These crises of great magnitude INVARIABLY cross state lines! calimary Oct 2012 #25
"Privatizing" an agency means keeping top level management to award fat contracts to campaign donors Bucky Oct 2012 #11
Romney would privatize disaster relief felix_numinous Oct 2012 #12
I think you nailed it!!!!!!!!!! nt Buddaman Oct 2012 #13
You would pay year after year for disaster relief Johonny Oct 2012 #17
And you could get all the bottled water you wanted during the disaster STARTING AT $50/bottle. calimary Oct 2012 #26
This story getting major coverage on Yahoo!News... reformist2 Oct 2012 #14
Sweet! trailmonkee Oct 2012 #18
Mitt Romney In GOP Debate: Shut Down Federal Disaster Agency... video link below Tx4obama Oct 2012 #15
So that would end National Guard aid as well? alphafemale Oct 2012 #19
Yes, FEMA mobilizes the government & the volunteers... Historic NY Oct 2012 #28
Will they report this on their network news? lalalu Oct 2012 #29
Wonderful, instead of seeing the President of the United States comforting the nation it'd be a CEO. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #30
"And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better," Th1onein Oct 2012 #31
don't hate him, just see him for what he is.... trailmonkee Oct 2012 #33

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
1. For the sake of our country, this has to be read by every American
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:49 PM
Oct 2012

And all the TV news shows MUST show the clips where Romney talks about what he'd do to Fema!

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
5. Romney screws the government out of every nickel, dime and quarter
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:51 PM
Oct 2012

and then he preaches about the immorality of public debt.

Whatta peach.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
8. States already have emergency services. He's talking privatizing FEMA.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:55 PM
Oct 2012

And we'd still be paying taxes for it unless we would be expected to buy emergency relief insurance on an individual basis and not get protection when natural disasters occur.

Public funding for FEMA is our best option, as is Social Security. Privatizing for emergency purposes is insanity.

calimary

(81,302 posts)
24. And no one's talking about how much higher state and local taxes would have to be raised
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:17 PM
Oct 2012

to accommodate this giant flush from the feds to the states. WHERE are the states supposed to get the money? Many of the states are deeply in the red already!

Nobody ever seems to bother pointing out that, wherever the government assistance comes from, to address the need that arises - across state lines in storms of this magnitude, and is far beyond what any one state can do for itself - THAT NEED IS STILL THERE!!!! AND IT STILL NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED!!!!

What is the matter with most of America?



Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
9. Romney believes
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:59 PM
Oct 2012

in a United States not a United States.

There is most definitely strength in numbers and there are times when no state or region can handle environmental catastrophes on its' own.

Thanks for the thread, trailmonkee.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
10. Frankly these reports completely miss the point
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:00 PM
Oct 2012

If you take Romney's words literally, they actually sound reasonable. We might not agree, but they actually seem to make some sense, unlike most of the bullshit he says.

The missing link is that

[center]EMERGENCIES DON'T RESPECT STATE BOUNDARIES[/center]

That is the big fallacy in his worldview. If tornadoes ravage Ohio, we pull emergency crews from other states. When the Mississippi floods, we send help from elsewhere. When Colorado is on fire, we send firefighters from all over the country.

In an emergency, by definition, the victim states are overwhelmed.

When America is under attack, that's why we have a union.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
16. And so emergencies in Alabama and Mississippi would be poorly funded
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012

and emergencies in New York, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania would be much better funded? Is that the way we want to do this? Works for me, because I live in a "net donor" to the federal government state, but I'm wondering how well this would go over with those from "net taker" (i.e. "red&quot states.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
21. It won't go over too well.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:59 PM
Oct 2012

I was in MS for Katrina. Glad it "works for you." It didn't work for us, and not everybody down there is a toothless conservative redneck.

Bake

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
27. Oh, no that's not what I'm suggesting!
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:30 PM
Oct 2012

I'm just suggesting that those who WANT the states to handle things would be in for a rude awakening if their wishes came true.

I'm in no way wishing that on the sane people who realize that the federal government can really be a plus when it comes to large-scale disaster relief (e.g.: James Lee Witt). No no no! My heart goes out to Dems in Red states (hey, our rightwing governor is trying his damndest to make PA a red state)



You'll laugh, but I was kayaking through rural southern NJ, and there was a sign on a tree in someone's backyard, facing the river. It said "I hear banjos. Paddle faster" Ha! Piney humor!

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
32. The most prosperous states can be overwhelmed.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:06 PM
Oct 2012

Remember 9-11 and the Loma Prieta earthquake. We are all New Yorkers and Californians when these things happen, just as every decent human being wanted to see all possible relief reach New Orleans when Katrina hit.

calimary

(81,302 posts)
25. BINGO. These crises of great magnitude INVARIABLY cross state lines!
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:21 PM
Oct 2012

So each individual state has to be its own exclusive fiefdom - 50 different "Yer On Yer Own" Clubs?

This whole mentality just makes me want to SCREAM!!!! And they're the ones who accuse us of "dividing" America. Hell, THEY want to divide our country at least 50 different ways, and that's speaking just geographically.

Bucky

(54,014 posts)
11. "Privatizing" an agency means keeping top level management to award fat contracts to campaign donors
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:00 PM
Oct 2012

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
12. Romney would privatize disaster relief
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:07 PM
Oct 2012

--corporations with no accountability, no regulations, no public access, that are run more like mini dictatorships would be in charge of human beings during a disaster. He would open the door wide for an all out police state, and sadly this is not an exaggeration. He is too close to the WH.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
17. You would pay year after year for disaster relief
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:45 PM
Oct 2012

then when the disaster came the private company would declare bankruptcy and walk away without ever providing disaster relief. They keep all the profits from the years no disaster happens, they walk away providing no relief when the disaster does happen.

calimary

(81,302 posts)
26. And you could get all the bottled water you wanted during the disaster STARTING AT $50/bottle.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:22 PM
Oct 2012

Hey, free market-free market!

Free market! Free market!

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
19. So that would end National Guard aid as well?
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:50 PM
Oct 2012

That's insane. The military is perhaps the only entity that capable of rapid response and deployment.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
31. "And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better,"
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:50 PM
Oct 2012

I'm beginning to HATE this person, and I don't even know him.

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