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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTonight marks the start of #YomHaShoah, a day dedicated to memorializing the 6 million Jews
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LetMyPeopleVote
(175,080 posts)Hekate
(100,132 posts)I said to my husband just the other day that there is so much urgent work to do in this world to save the planet; and yet there are people who truly love the violence of war, fantasize about war, plan for it, crave it.
The US Capitol insurrectionists tried to set one off, and it is too soon to tell if they will get their wish in whats left of my lifetime. But Putin the Poisoner, in his lightless and shriveled soul, has the power to actually make it happen, and to try to wipe out a people in a 21st century genocide.
We Americans are duty-bound to get involved, to try and stop these monstrous events.
Yet all the while our Mother cries out
I have a beautiful calligraphy made by my friend LKL some decades ago, in which the Hebrew letters of Hannah Seneshs well-known poem form a candle. Crossing the flame is the blessing the True Judge. The translation as LK gave it to me is:
Blessed is the match consumed in kindling flame.
Blessed is the flame that burns in the secret fastness of the heart.
Blessed is the heart with strength to stop its beating for honors sake.
Blessed is the match consumed in kindling flame
Blessed art Thou HaShem our God, King of the Universe, the True Judge.
Rhiannon12866
(250,470 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(175,080 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)That last tweet is the one that gets me the most. I have been saying that for years, but people always say "No, that will never happen here."
Really? I am not so sure that it won't. The hatred is there for sure. If they ever got organized enough, it can and will happen again.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)relatives who I never got to meet were murdered during the holocaust, at the very beginning. I will never forget any of it. Although admittedly sometimes it is all too much to think about for me. I feel like my father is one of them now, murdered during covid by this country. We just watched A Woman in Gold again recently, it is very moving for anyone who hasn't seen it. I showed it to students as well and they loved it. A friend also lost family in the holocaust and she never spoke of it much to her children as far as I recall because she did not want them to grow and live with that fear.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)now and then in Europe before WWII. By the time my husband, who was born in 1940, was old enough to meet them, they were all dead. Apparently they were all among those who believed people were too civilized for the stories to be true. They had means, but none got out in time.
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Meowmee
(9,212 posts)At the time of WW1 when Germans took their house. They were traveling around in a cart starving, digging potatoes to eat. Her mother and a few siblings died from illness then. Her father and 2 brothers remained. Her father got his house back and was murdered along with one brother by his neighbor at the outbreak of WW2 to steal his house in part. The other remaining brother was living elsewhere, he returned to his town to find the whole town including his wife and 3 yr old daughter bayonetted by german soldiers. He escaped into the Russian army. He tried to warn his father and brother about what had happened and to get them to leave and come to Russia but their father didn't want to leave. Her remaining brother lived out his life in Russia and was never allowed to leave or have visitors.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that some people, shockingly, haven't advanced since then at all. We had stability since then in this very blessed nation because majorities had united to keep them and populist leaders who weaponize them in check.
Never forget.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)The hatred and violence had been there for many years but it escalated then to a depravity on a different level. The center of the us nazi party was on the east end here near us I think. I have always feared it could happen here too and now we see it can. And we must include the atrocities the nation was founded in as well. Humans arent such a great lot.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I believe civilization has been advancing but not individual human nature, so that when bad leaders rise... that people capable of "it" are everywhere, but even in the 1990s I still believed it wouldn't, that our culture and traditions were too embedded.
Civilization may be advancing, but some people will always be capable of the worst, eagerly, if lead to it. At least we're learning a lot more about them that wasn't known before. WWII lead to the identification of authoritarian personalities, identified almost entirely as RW, looking at the countries where naziism surged.
But fairly recently LW authoritarians, far more like RW than not, have also been identified. That helps explain some of the destructive ugliness targeted at Democrats from LW authoritarians in 2016, and since, that was masquerading as about "progressivism." Same scary, anti-democratic behaviors, different claimed ideologies.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)About problems on the left as well, many fascist behaviors.
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,080 posts)Behind the Aegis
(55,935 posts)It is jarring how uneducated people are when it comes to the Holocaust, and, sadly, not just the right! It is getting to the point that the basics aren't even known or understood. Not even a century out, and it is becoming more and more like a "myth".