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malaise

(269,004 posts)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:13 PM Oct 2012

I hope everyone at DU now understands why those of us in the path of hurricanes and tropical storms

take them very seriously during the lengthy hurricane season. The storms are getting bigger and more dangerous and we'd better be prepared.
Stay safe all - the death toll is rising.

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I hope everyone at DU now understands why those of us in the path of hurricanes and tropical storms (Original Post) malaise Oct 2012 OP
I agree. Too often the "smart-ass" brigade think they're oh-so-clever with their snark. Stinky The Clown Oct 2012 #1
Sp true. We'd better put climate change back on the agenda malaise Oct 2012 #5
Yup, nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #2
I saw video of high water... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #3
I saw a lot of scary stuff today and the worst part is that malaise Oct 2012 #6
Now I get why people are so rude littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #4
With 4 hidden posts in 2 months you now feel compelled to call other DUers rude jerks? HangOnKids Oct 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #18
Not what I said and I am not outraged. littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #21
That Is Funny! LOL!!!!! HangOnKids Oct 2012 #53
I think cable news coverage contributes to it BainsBane Oct 2012 #7
Good point but links to experts should not be compared with malaise Oct 2012 #8
I've watched a local reporter kentauros Oct 2012 #11
I've found that the more serious the storm BainsBane Oct 2012 #13
Maybe the local media there is just better at reporting real news. kentauros Oct 2012 #15
Well, there is a lot of that BainsBane Oct 2012 #16
yes, they do report good info. kentauros Oct 2012 #19
When you're without electricity for two weeks BainsBane Oct 2012 #24
No, but Hurricane Ike knocked out my neighborhood for three weeks. kentauros Oct 2012 #30
radio with batteries BainsBane Oct 2012 #34
Have you ever used a solar battery charger? kentauros Oct 2012 #42
plus cable is always the first thing to go out BainsBane Oct 2012 #25
I was impressed with my Dish Network system after Ike. kentauros Oct 2012 #31
stockpiles of batteries BainsBane Oct 2012 #36
Thanks! kentauros Oct 2012 #44
I think you're correct malaise Oct 2012 #50
I need to modify this fer wild fires. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #20
That should be interesting :) kentauros Oct 2012 #22
Toothless guy who stays behind nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #23
footage of aircraft dropping water on the fire fizzgig Oct 2012 #27
That's actually pretty funny. And it's DR. Neil Frank to you, Buddy. nolabear Oct 2012 #26
You'll have to correct the people at The Houston Press for that goof kentauros Oct 2012 #32
I watched Al "fall on his face" roker on TV tonight. obxhead Oct 2012 #48
That's very good malaise Oct 2012 #51
I'm one of the lucky ones! sheshe2 Oct 2012 #43
8 hours is fantastic BainsBane Oct 2012 #45
Amen to that. Second guessing means nothing. Just lend a hand. nolabear Oct 2012 #9
You all have hurricanes madokie Oct 2012 #10
tornado's damage paths... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #47
The wind has been persistently heavy today rightsideout Oct 2012 #12
Some people feel the need to always add their 2 cents on every subject. Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #17
K&R Kurovski Oct 2012 #28
I live in tornado alley Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #29
I'll take hurricanes over tornadoes malaise Oct 2012 #52
They're both horrifying Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #54
I live in what's called "Dixie Alley".... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #33
I live in SE KS. From ages 5-20 we saw 1 twister nearby. The last 10 years rad51 Oct 2012 #49
I respect those who evacuate and for those who can't liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #35
Been through several. One major cat 4. Skip Intro Oct 2012 #37
Gusts 40+ here in Indiana...Wondering when the coast moved this far inland. Stay safe! silvershadow Oct 2012 #38
Nature bats last. ErikJ Oct 2012 #39
Bingo! DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #41
And the same can be femrap Oct 2012 #40
I'm on the southern edge of the path. obxhead Oct 2012 #46

malaise

(269,004 posts)
5. Sp true. We'd better put climate change back on the agenda
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:22 PM
Oct 2012

I'm guessing that even more people are going to be killed after the water recedes.
They'll be talking about this one for ages.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
3. I saw video of high water...
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:20 PM
Oct 2012

...rushing through the streets. It reminded me of the horrifying tsunami a couple of years ago.

Yes, we get it and I don't blame you for being scared. This is serious business, and climate change is creating crazy super storms.

Stay safe!! I hope you have everything that you need.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
6. I saw a lot of scary stuff today and the worst part is that
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:28 PM
Oct 2012

there are new dangers when the water recedes. Among the worst dangers are streets without traffic lights. No power, no traffic lights - that is a recipe for fatal accidents.
Fires are another post-storm threat.

We're great - completely recovered from our brush with Sandy

littlemissmartypants

(22,658 posts)
4. Now I get why people are so rude
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:22 PM
Oct 2012

the bad behavior has been given a new PC term... wow. I am not being sarcastic. Not really surprised by rude jerks, because I keep meeting them in Meta D. Call it what you want snark, rude, it's just insensitive bad behavior. Peace. LMSP

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
14. With 4 hidden posts in 2 months you now feel compelled to call other DUers rude jerks?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:14 AM
Oct 2012

Really? Not getting your outrage.

Response to HangOnKids (Reply #14)

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
7. I think cable news coverage contributes to it
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:30 PM
Oct 2012

Showing those idiotic reporters blowing around in the wind is ridiculous. I lived through four hurricanes in Fla, and I never watched cable news to stay informed. The only decent coverage on storms is local. The national reporters make such idiots out of themselves, it may contribute to trivializing stores.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
8. Good point but links to experts should not be compared with
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:32 PM
Oct 2012

M$Greedia and their quest for ratings.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
11. I've watched a local reporter
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:03 AM
Oct 2012

get literally blown out of the frame, and the rest still go and stand in water in order to tell people not to stand in water.

Maybe it's different in Florida, but in Houston, they're all far more sensationalized than even the cable networks. I'd say that's where the cable networks learned to do such stupid "reporting" techniques


This graphic is old, and set up for our local media, but you can still use it pretty much anywhere that gets hurricanes:



BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
13. I've found that the more serious the storm
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:12 AM
Oct 2012

the less sensationalism. When I first moved to Fl, a huge hurricane was due to make landfall but ended up turning out to the ocean. A couple of years later, two hurricanes made landfall right on us, and the next year two more. The more hurricanes, the less sensationalism and better the information. Cable is always the first thing to go out, so local news did simulcasts on radio. There was one local station in Palm Beach county that provided excellent local news during storms, so I always listened to them. It was the only way to know where exactly the storm was, if you were in the middle of the eye or if the storm had passed, and the status of restoring electricity and other services after the storm.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
15. Maybe the local media there is just better at reporting real news.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:18 AM
Oct 2012

Here, they've been sensationalized for decades. I only watch some of it with hurricanes or tropical storms coming at us and a finger quick for the mute button. All too often, it is exactly like in that humorous bingo card.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
19. yes, they do report good info.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:31 AM
Oct 2012

The problems arise when you have to sift through all that filler and other crap just to get the few minutes of useful things like road closings, and so forth. That's why I tend to go online instead

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
24. When you're without electricity for two weeks
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:34 AM
Oct 2012

Online is not an option. I think you probably haven't been hit as often in recent years as S Florida has.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
30. No, but Hurricane Ike knocked out my neighborhood for three weeks.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:41 AM
Oct 2012

I was lucky as our apartments are connected to the nearby power right of way, but the place was a ghost town. The few that remained had power cords snaking across the roads to other houses. If something like Ike hits here again, I'll probably also evacuate to Austin until the power is back.

Now, we didn't evacuate for Hurricane Alicia in 1983, and so lived without power for a week. Sure, no Internet, but without power we also didn't have access to the news in any form other than hearsay from neighbors. We had to catch up later.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
34. radio with batteries
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:57 AM
Oct 2012

was my method. Lots of batteries and a little weather radio with a flashlight I could crank. Hurricanes suck. So glad I'm in MN now.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
42. Have you ever used a solar battery charger?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:04 AM
Oct 2012

I've often wondered if those were worth getting for my rechargables...

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
31. I was impressed with my Dish Network system after Ike.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:44 AM
Oct 2012

The dish wasn't knocked out of alignment at all! When the power came back on, I could watch all stations, like normal. And my Internet is through a DSL modem over the landline I still have. It never went out

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
36. stockpiles of batteries
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:06 AM
Oct 2012

Because of problems getting batteries after hurricanes, I stocked up with tons of them. When I was moving back to MN, some family members came down to help me. They wondered why in the world I had so many batteries, but I had them in case another storm hit.

I hope Houston stays safe the rest of hurricane season. I went to UT Austin for grad school and remember it fondly.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
44. Thanks!
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:12 AM
Oct 2012

You never know with hurricane season, so having a "surplus" of batteries is a good idea. I seem to recall one storm in the last decade that formed out in the Atlantic in December! Either that, or it was late November, which is still damn late. The weather is changing, and some places are getting prepared for it. Others, not so much. I think Florida is better prepared than most of the rest of the states, possibly due to how they can get hit from either side.

My parents actually live out west of Austin in the country, which is where I'd go for an evacuation. Hopefully things have wetted down enough there that they won't have any more wildfires in the foreseeable future.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
22. That should be interesting :)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:32 AM
Oct 2012

I haven't seen news reports for areas like that, as we haven't had them come close enough (yet.) Should be fun!

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
48. I watched Al "fall on his face" roker on TV tonight.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:37 AM
Oct 2012

Dumb fuck (yes, he was being a DUMB FUCK) standing in water getting blown over crying about the wind.

No shit, get into the building 25 feet to your left, then report to us.



Then again we get this BS. Skip to 0:35 in the video.

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)
43. I'm one of the lucky ones!
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:11 AM
Oct 2012

We lose our power and I don't have to watch those IDIOTS! I am in Mass. and lost power. I sure missed my computer....news broadcasts NOT!
Shout out to NSTAR! only down 8 hrs. They were prepared!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. You all have hurricanes
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:41 PM
Oct 2012

we have tornadoes. With a tornado one can go below ground level and survive but that option is not there for hurricanes.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
47. tornado's damage paths...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:34 AM
Oct 2012

are pretty narrow. Yes, they are scary as hell, but they do not compare to things like this.

rightsideout

(978 posts)
12. The wind has been persistently heavy today
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:10 AM
Oct 2012

In Maryland we've been averaging between 50 to 60 mph winds the entire day with gusts up to 70 mph that have shaken the house. We've been told to expect 60 mph overnight.

Schools have been cancelled for tomorrow. But it should all clear out by Halloween.

Just saw on our local news, a tree in our neighborhood fell between two houses onto some power lines.









 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
17. Some people feel the need to always add their 2 cents on every subject.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:23 AM
Oct 2012

People that downplay disasters are right up there on the "Most Fucking Annoying" list.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
29. I live in tornado alley
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:39 AM
Oct 2012

So I get it. Difference is we get tornado outbreaks, floods and wildfires rather than hurricanes. None of them are any fun.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
54. They're both horrifying
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:18 PM
Oct 2012

I guess if there is a difference it's that in a tornado you have minutes to seek shelter rather than days.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
33. I live in what's called "Dixie Alley"....
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:51 AM
Oct 2012

...we're close enough to the Gulf Coast to get some of the effects of hurricanes, and we get a lot of tornadoes like the April 27, 2011 outbreak. Twenty years ago we had two severe weather seasons capable of spawning tornadoes, one in the Fall and one in the Spring. Now we seem to be subject to severe weather most of the year.

I'm afraid global warming is here to stay.

rad51

(89 posts)
49. I live in SE KS. From ages 5-20 we saw 1 twister nearby. The last 10 years
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:41 AM
Oct 2012

I've had about 3 affect my farm. I'm lucky the house has been spared, but barns, fences, and animals are another story. Things are changing.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
35. I respect those who evacuate and for those who can't
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:06 AM
Oct 2012

I respect those who get to where they will be safe and stay there. But I'm sorry some of these yahoos that get out in it and end up on camera just look ridiculous. I hope those of you who are taking it seriously and even those who aren't stay safe.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
37. Been through several. One major cat 4.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:17 AM
Oct 2012

Hugo.

Didn't leave, rode it out.

Should have left.

Still, I must say few things are as tragic as the faux concern of tv newscasters and pundits and politicians. Sheesh. This isn't about you, you know?

Having said that, I wish everyone in the midst of this storm well. (I wish everyone well, in fact)




 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
40. And the same can be
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:39 AM
Oct 2012

said for all of those in heartland who endure drought, floods, tornadoes, and the incoming high winds/rain/snow from the hurricanes off the Atlantic.

We went for nine days during 100 degree temperatures over the 4th of July of this year with NO ELECTRICITY. So yeah, we know all about the CLIMATE CHANGE. But no one seemed to pay any attention to that.

Once your food prices go astronomical after the first of year will we hear complaints. Buy canned stuff now and prepare. We've treated Mother Nature like crap for too long and she is ready to kick some ass!!!

I heard the NYSE was under water...made me smile. Mother Nature smacks the rich dudes upside the head. Hope it's true.

You're singing to the choir. But it seems like Climate Change only matter when it hits the East Coast....and by the way, get ready for the big EQs on the West Coast....only a matter of time.

I think possibly the Mayans were right....the paradigm is going to shift. No more competition, just cooperation.

We'll see.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
46. I'm on the southern edge of the path.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:31 AM
Oct 2012

Louisa VA here reporting in.

We got very lucky with this storm. From my layman estimate of what happened, the storm sped up beating high tides and now has the jet stream forcing dry air in behind the storm.

Here in Louisa we were expected to get 4 to 12 inches of rain depending on who you listened to. We're sitting on 2 inches at this point, verified by 2 personal rain gauges. There might be another 1/2 inch of rain left for us, but I doubt even that.

However, I really think it's far too late to avoid the climate change we've forced. It's a fact of life that we must adapt. Our only hope at this point is to have the social programs that support life during the coming disasters in place.

All I really know is I run out of fingers counting the 100 year storms over the last decade. When will we start calling them 25 year or 10 year storms. We already should.

Thankfully temps are what they are. 10 degrees colder and we would be seeing a 3 week freeze out with 2 to 3 feet of snow in a region (country) that lacks the equipment to handle it.

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