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BamaRefugee

(3,484 posts)
Fri May 6, 2022, 01:44 PM May 2022

Sorry if this is a repost. Seriously WTF? We have replaced actual bare knuckles politics with snarky

tweets and can't figure out why things are slipping into darkness?!!?!?
Bring back the likes of Tip O'Neill or for cripes sake LBJ and let's get things DONE.
My governor Gavin Newsom just weighed in with pretty much the same thoughts.
Personally, I feel that EVERY SINGLE OUNCE OF OUR LEGISLATIVE ENERGY has to go to voting rights, voting rights and voting rights.
THEN and only then can we begin to work on other things, but when everyone can vote, sooooooooo many things are going to begin getting fixed just by that alone.


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Sorry if this is a repost. Seriously WTF? We have replaced actual bare knuckles politics with snarky (Original Post) BamaRefugee May 2022 OP
"It's high time we do it"? Go ahead, then. Do it! Midnight Writer May 2022 #1
Not a lot she can do other than scream from the housetops... Ferrets are Cool May 2022 #3
You don't think other elected Democrats are doing this too? mcar May 2022 #7
So you want me to end representative democracy myself? The"we" means the people we elected, and your BamaRefugee May 2022 #5
I was responding to her tweet. "Use Presidential authority to end gridlock"? Midnight Writer May 2022 #10
Sorry if I misunderstood. And yes, the ONLY thing we need to do now, UNTIL IT'S DONE, is pass law BamaRefugee May 2022 #11
I like AOC llashram May 2022 #2
The republicans are evil! Why do the democrats allow that?!?! CrackityJones75 May 2022 #4
Democrats could have codified Roe, and have you forgotten that Biden stated this was one of his most BamaRefugee May 2022 #6
When? When could they have codified it and who were the votes? CrackityJones75 May 2022 #8
Ask this guy for a start. He seems to know all about it. Oh, and Obama too. BamaRefugee May 2022 #12
Yeah? And? CrackityJones75 May 2022 #13
I'm not interested in ripping into Joe. I AM interested in whispering in his ear that it looks like BamaRefugee May 2022 #14
huh.... CrackityJones75 May 2022 #15
Drop the hyperbole. I don't keep "bringing it up". I posted Biden's own words ONCE. BamaRefugee May 2022 #16
uh-huh. Sure CrackityJones75 May 2022 #17
this isn't the totality of her activism bigtree May 2022 #9

BamaRefugee

(3,484 posts)
5. So you want me to end representative democracy myself? The"we" means the people we elected, and your
Fri May 6, 2022, 02:09 PM
May 2022

"Go ahead then, do it! Show us the way" means what? I've voted Dem since I was able to vote, for 50 years, radicalized Chicago '68, been beaten up by Birmingham , Alabama cops when I organized the first ever Vietnam war protest there in college, been to countless protests since, supported candidates with my time and money, and on and on.
SHOULD I HAVE STORMED THE CAPITOL?

Midnight Writer

(21,771 posts)
10. I was responding to her tweet. "Use Presidential authority to end gridlock"?
Fri May 6, 2022, 02:19 PM
May 2022

How exactly does that work? Is Biden supposed to issue an Executive Order to end gridlock?

Why is she complaining about Democrats, when the Republicans own the Supreme Court and have enough votes in the Senate to stymie pretty much anything.

I like AOC. I admire her courage, her passion, her idealism, but I don't understand why when the Republicans screw us over, she pins the responsibility on Democrats.

If she has a concrete plan for Democrats to overcome this, she should show us the way.

The only thing I can think of is to Get Out The Vote for Democrats, and claiming Democrats are not doing their jobs is not very motivating.

BamaRefugee

(3,484 posts)
11. Sorry if I misunderstood. And yes, the ONLY thing we need to do now, UNTIL IT'S DONE, is pass law
Fri May 6, 2022, 02:28 PM
May 2022

after law after law protecting and enhancing VOTER RIGHTS, with absolutely the harshest punishment for anyone who infringes on them.
That is the only real pathway to actually getting the things done that need to be done!

llashram

(6,265 posts)
2. I like AOC
Fri May 6, 2022, 01:52 PM
May 2022

yet her politics seem to be gravitating back toward Bernie S type politics. That is a viable and correct concern to me. She is a fighter and I like that the most. No one intimidates AOC.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
4. The republicans are evil! Why do the democrats allow that?!?!
Fri May 6, 2022, 02:06 PM
May 2022

Give me a break. I am very tired of this. You know what Democrats held Roe in place for 50 years. Not until these Democrat bashing left wing splinter groups came along did we have this shit to contend with.

These people want to run as Democrats, bash Democrats, and the Demand that Democrats save them. Just about every good thing we have in this country is because of a Democrat. How about some support for once?

BamaRefugee

(3,484 posts)
6. Democrats could have codified Roe, and have you forgotten that Biden stated this was one of his most
Fri May 6, 2022, 02:10 PM
May 2022

important objectives and would be on it ASAP?

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
13. Yeah? And?
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:30 PM
May 2022

We didn’t elect enough Democrats for him to do it.

So again where are the votes coming from? Or are you just interested in ripping into Joe?

BamaRefugee

(3,484 posts)
14. I'm not interested in ripping into Joe. I AM interested in whispering in his ear that it looks like
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:33 PM
May 2022

the sticky note he made about this has fallen down onto the floor.

BamaRefugee

(3,484 posts)
16. Drop the hyperbole. I don't keep "bringing it up". I posted Biden's own words ONCE.
Fri May 6, 2022, 05:10 PM
May 2022

He didn’t post any ifs ands or buts about it either. Just said he would do it.
If he had said “if we have enough votes and Jupiter is rising over Mars and the Magic 8 Ball says “yes”, I will do it” that would be a totally different thing.
If he spoke in error, or at this time just can’t be bothered, I’d appreciate him just letting us know. As it is, I still take him at his word and his promise.

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
9. this isn't the totality of her activism
Fri May 6, 2022, 02:15 PM
May 2022

...I'd think anyone concerned with the issues she's advocating would appreciate that AOC is using every instigation of democratic action to put her ideals into effect.

What always perplexes me is how people who respond to her advocacy with cynicism and outright hostility believe that's some effective political action. She already has opponents in the opposition party broadsiding her, why would anyone believe their own rock-throwing at this Democrat has a different effect on the party?

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