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would you have been accused of being a witch? (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2012 OP
I am a witch. A very nice one, but still a witch. Hepburn Oct 2012 #1
i love the whole wicca/witch thing.. i have a pan theist bent. xchrom Oct 2012 #3
Blessed be... Hepburn Oct 2012 #4
and also you... xchrom Oct 2012 #8
Me too. RebelOne Oct 2012 #36
I never cuold spel deaniac21 Oct 2012 #46
I am a bishop and an old religion believer. Bridget Bishop is an inspiration to me roguevalley Oct 2012 #40
Yes, I'm a woman with cats who has muttered vague threats. justiceischeap Oct 2012 #2
Ha...me too! txdemsftw Oct 2012 #6
I have a black cat and a grey cat. nt justiceischeap Oct 2012 #9
I had two black american short haired cats. They were human to me. Totally tuned into me. roguevalley Oct 2012 #41
If it is a man, he is not a witch but a warlock. n/t RebelOne Oct 2012 #37
Nope, he's a witch. He and I have already had this discussion justiceischeap Oct 2012 #38
I've often stated that had I been born in another century, I would have been burned at the stake. AzDar Oct 2012 #5
My cat doesn't like me gollygee Oct 2012 #7
As expected: Lucinda Oct 2012 #10
Are you kidding...??? AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #11
My wife has cats sarisataka Oct 2012 #12
i think you should leave well enough alone. nt xchrom Oct 2012 #13
Some of my male ancestors in Scotland marions ghost Oct 2012 #14
I thought the males got away with it, guess not! flamingdem Oct 2012 #27
While women were accused more often, men were executed marions ghost Oct 2012 #34
my great aunt vidie was a touch healer. i can do the same although I am great roguevalley Oct 2012 #42
yes some people marions ghost Oct 2012 #45
rub your hands together and place them. then tell the roguevalley Oct 2012 #47
"Highly likely" was my score. sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #15
No, but I have been accused of being a troll.lol nt Javaman Oct 2012 #16
Highly likely per the quiz, lol. And that's without taking into kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #17
Very early in life, I'm sure. Care Acutely Oct 2012 #18
Being a white male grants me a lot of immunity MindPilot Oct 2012 #19
i'm a guy -- and i got a 'very likely'. nt xchrom Oct 2012 #20
Same here - n/t coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #23
You have given us no choice but to throw you in the river. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #35
Yes, especially because one of my ancestors was accused of being a witch. It runs in the family. Brickbat Oct 2012 #21
same here shanti Oct 2012 #28
I only answered no to one question... a la izquierda Oct 2012 #22
Don't know about witch but I definitely would have been accused of being a heretic. hobbit709 Oct 2012 #24
Of course. I wonder about it today. davsand Oct 2012 #25
Oh hell yes. I frequently run up against the powerful and usually win. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #26
I'm "highly likely" and I'm not too keen on this "witch pricking" business. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2012 #29
Apparently I'm in the "FUCK YES" category. My youngest daughter too - eclectic pagan. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #30
I've been accused of worse pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #31
Perhaps Marrah_G Oct 2012 #32
In Judeo-Christian-Islamic cultures, for sure. Zorra Oct 2012 #33
Not just accused - convicted LibertyLover Oct 2012 #39
and to you, on this terrible week. roguevalley Oct 2012 #43
Thank you - LibertyLover Nov 2012 #48
Surprising the GOP hasn't used this argument against the poor! Generic Other Oct 2012 #44

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
36. Me too.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:12 PM
Oct 2012

I was very heavily into Wicca many years ago. But when some spells I did really worked, I gave it up as being too dangerous.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
40. I am a bishop and an old religion believer. Bridget Bishop is an inspiration to me
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:22 PM
Oct 2012

she wasn't a witch. she just didn't bend to convention and was herself to the end. The story is in my family who are from New England.

I would be burned for a witch. Very few people know of my beliefs beyond my parents and they were totally supportive.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
2. Yes, I'm a woman with cats who has muttered vague threats.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:34 AM
Oct 2012

Funny, I actually live with a witch. I'll have to send him the quiz.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
38. Nope, he's a witch. He and I have already had this discussion
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:26 PM
Oct 2012

Most in modern Pagan communities do not view the term 'Warlock' favorably. Warlock in modern Pagan communities can be considered "oathbreakers" or they have been banished from covens.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
5. I've often stated that had I been born in another century, I would have been burned at the stake.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:35 AM
Oct 2012

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
7. My cat doesn't like me
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:37 AM
Oct 2012

I am female and opinionated and I have a vivid imagination, but otherwise it looks like I might be OK.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
10. As expected:
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:41 AM
Oct 2012

"...it’s clear that an accusation of witchcraft against you would have been highly likely. Such an allegation would have seen you subjected to a number of ‘witch tests’, some of which may have involved ‘informal’ torture such as ‘witch pricking’ (the method of piercing the skin to find areas of flesh that do not bleed). If you lived in Scotland where the use of torture was once permitted, you may have been subjected to sleep deprivation, thumbscrews and leg crushers until you confessed. Once a confession was made, it would have been left up to the courts to sentence you."

I knew that before I took the test!

Was fun...thanks for the link!

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
11. Are you kidding...???
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:41 AM
Oct 2012

With my look in medieval times, i would have been called the devil's spawn. (I wonder how many Asians traveled to Europe during those days..my guess is very, very few. ) My guess would be there would be no trial... "just kill her."

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
14. Some of my male ancestors in Scotland
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:45 AM
Oct 2012

were accused of being "practitioners of the Black Arts." The son of one of them came to America with the early settlers.

I think they were mainly herbalists and alchemists. Doctors and biologists run in my family to this day.

They probably did "ride the wind" though....

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
27. I thought the males got away with it, guess not!
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:06 PM
Oct 2012

Part of my family is from Cornwall, one was in a coven!

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
34. While women were accused more often, men were executed
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:56 PM
Oct 2012

with just as much expediency if accused. Here is a definitive list of names that proves that men were executed for it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_for_witchcraft

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In my ancestors' case--it got kind of messed up with English/Scottish political stuff (Mary Scots, King James, the Reformation). They could use alleged witchcraft as an excuse to do land takeovers and such, ie. a political motive. So they were killed and emprisoned for not being loyal to King James, and one escaped to America and became a farmer in VA.

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But you're right that the Malleus Maleficarum of 1487 -- said that women were MORE likely to be witches, especially when they behaved like men --(lacked "proper female decorum&quot


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum

"The treatise describes how women and men become inclined for witchcraft. The authors argue that women were more susceptible to demonic temptations through their manifold weaknesses of their gender. It was believed that they were weaker in faith and more carnal than men.[27] Michael Bailey claims that most of the women accused as witches had strong personalities and were known to defy convention by overstepping the lines of proper female decorum.[28] After the publication of the Malleus, it seems as though most of those individuals prosecuted as witches were women.[29] Indeed, the very title of the Malleus Maleficarum is feminine, alluding to the idea that it was women who were the villains. Otherwise, it would be the Malleus Maleficorum (the masculine form of the Latin noun maleficus or malefica, 'witch'). In Latin, the feminine "Maleficarum" would only be used for women while the masculine "Maleficorum" could be used for men alone or for both sexes if together.[30]"


Birds of a feather ride the wind floozoogle

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
42. my great aunt vidie was a touch healer. i can do the same although I am great
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:25 PM
Oct 2012

with severe joint pain and the like. She could 'wish' away warts and such. She touched your skin, it was very warm and then it would disappear in a few days. My Vidie is an inspiration. All the women of my mom's side are this way.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
45. yes some people
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:31 PM
Oct 2012

can put their energy out through their fingers. I saw a Chinese Chi Gung practitioner revive an almost dead rabbit one time just by holding it (truly). And of course there's the whole "healing touch" training which nurses often do. So I completely believe you. Your Vidie sounds wonderful. Only good, very positive people can do this IMO. Mean selfish people don't develop this ability because they don't want to give anything away. That's a generalization but you know what I mean.

What was once known as witch craft is really the focusing of energy. Many applications. I'm not so good at touch myself--I do better with mental pictures & visualizing. I have a sister who works with touch healing.

kick for Halloween

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
47. rub your hands together and place them. then tell the
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:57 PM
Oct 2012

person you are helping to imagine their pain as red balloons. have them release the balloons one at a time. My mom used to have such pain she couldn't walk. It was 40 on a scale of 0-10. When I would do this for her it dropped to a 3 and lasted about 2-3 days. She asked me to do this. I also do good luck with migraines and headaches. Hugs, honey.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
17. Highly likely per the quiz, lol. And that's without taking into
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:20 AM
Oct 2012

consideration my medical work and certain strategically placed moles.

Seriously. A CAT DOCTOR?? I'd be the first to burn.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
19. Being a white male grants me a lot of immunity
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:31 AM
Oct 2012

But I would probably tied to the stake right along with them since I would be the heretic pointing out that none of this shit makes any sense whatsoever. And if you don't believe me, in a fortnight and a day, I shall command the moon to become red.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
22. I only answered no to one question...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:41 AM
Oct 2012

So according the quiz, it's highly likely!
And they didn't even ask an education quiz

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
24. Don't know about witch but I definitely would have been accused of being a heretic.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:51 AM
Oct 2012

Result would have been about the same.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
25. Of course. I wonder about it today.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:53 AM
Oct 2012

While this is "fun" and informative in today's world, never forget that there are still places where they kill "witches." It still goes on, and women are still a primary target. Every so often you'll see a news report coming out of Africa or Asia where some poor soul has been killed for being suspected of being a witch.

We like to think that the US has moved past this kind of crap, but there are still churches that literally preach "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." How far removed from it are we, really?



Laura

Buns_of_Fire

(17,177 posts)
29. I'm "highly likely" and I'm not too keen on this "witch pricking" business.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:17 PM
Oct 2012

So I cast a spell to make all of their ears turn green and fall off. They'll never be able to wear sunglasses again. HA!

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
32. Perhaps
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

I would like to think however, that I would have been smart enough to hide my beliefs from those who would do my family harm.


LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
48. Thank you -
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:09 PM
Nov 2012

that is very kind of you. We're fine here in Maryland, but if I still lived in northern New Jersey, it would be a different story. How are you all doing?

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
44. Surprising the GOP hasn't used this argument against the poor!
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:36 PM
Oct 2012

"Begging lay at the root of many witchcraft allegations, and beggars were often accused of practising witchcraft against those who had refused them help."

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