Senators per million of population -

[packman]

[Amishman]

1. Yes, that is by design. The Senate as not intended to be proportional

I'm not sure why so many struggle with this.

The bicameral structure was intended to slow change by requiring broad acceptance by both population and region to get something passed.

Given the precedence of stupidity in this country, I'm not sure I'd want it to be easier to make sweeping change anymore. Whatever we do to clear the road for ourselves only makes it easier for the right to eventually push it all back and then some.

[jimfields33]

2. Back in the day, voters didn't even vote for senators.

The state legislature did. Maybe going back to that would stop the confusion of how the senate operates.

[enough]

3. It's not unreasonable to analyze the effects of existing structures

and consider the proper response

[dpibel]

9. What is broad acceptance by region?

One acre, one vote?

It's a bit abstruse to pretend that a state has some interest of its anthropomorphized own that is somehow separable from the interests of the people who live there.

I wonder if there could have been some other factor at work in setting up the antidemocratic nature of the senate? Whatever could have been going on at the time of the founding that would require disproportionate representation to protect less-populated states?

It's right on the tip of my tongue...

[Amishman]

10. I'm assuming you mean slavery - and you would be wrong.

VA was the most populous state in 1791 - regardless of if slaves were counted. They were the poster child of the large state that they were afraid would dominate. PA andNY were next.

The small fries being protected? Delaware, New Hampshire, and Georgia.

[dpibel]

11. Again: What is acceptance by region?

[hunter]

4. The powers of the Senate need to be severely limited...

... similar to how the United Kingdom handled the obsolete and undemocratic House of Lords.

[Demsrule86]

7. That will never happen as we have a constitution.

[hunter]

12. Lots of stuff has changed since the Constitution was written.

Hopefully the crisis that brings about this change won't be violent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[Joenobody]

5. This isn't a new thing

Perhaps democrats should be making more effort to win over rural voters. It used to be, not long ago, that coal mining counties we heavy democratic leans. Same for many other rural and blue color industries.

Sure, union busting helped weaken that but we did ourselves no favors with policy priorities we took.

If we want to compete in these places, we need more Joe Manchins. But this board seems they would rather have more Rand Paul's instead.

Also, be careful what we wish for. I'd be interested to see what Texas and Florida would send if they suddenly had a bunch of extra Senate seats to fill.

Instead of changing the rules we should find ways to lesses Republican advantage within them.

[Baitball Blogger]

6. So what is our protest chant?

No fucknation without representation.

It is galling to see how little representation we have.

[Stuart G]

8. Why?..Here is why---To get the Constitution Accepted by all states..That is why..Population states &

small states. Founders wanted a new form of government...................the old form................was....

.........."The Articles of Confederation" & that wasn't working....so the new form was...........

......... "The United States Constitution" and it works well.....................

one house of legislature based on POPULATION

one house of legislation EQUAL FOR ALL......large states & small states...(2 for each state).

..................... THAT IS WHY....THAT IS WHY...IN ORDER TO GET THE CONSITUTION PASSED THEY
..................... eSTABLISHED ONE LEGISLATURE BASED ON POPULATION..........................
...................... ONE LEGISLATURE BASED ON EQUAL FOR ALL.............................& IN ORDER TO
....................... GET A LAW PASSED, LAWS HAD TO GET THROUGH .............BOTH HOUSES.

..............................THE IDEA WAS ...............A COMPROMISE FOR THE BIG AND SMALL STATES........

.................................THAT IS WHY, THAT IS WHY, THAT IS WHY......FOR CLOSE TO 30 YEARS I TAUGHT
.........................U.S. HISTORY AND WE HAD TO TEACH A CONSTITUION TEST...YOU ALL WOULD HAVE FAILED IT
.................................................TOUGH LUCK INDEED...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as stated in post number 1, it was by design..but that is the exact reason for the.... design ...The ................
............. .Articles of Confederation, ..............the system that was running the government was not working
.................well, so the founders...smart people...decided a new system was needed............that was the
....................idea behind the ... U. S. CONSTITUTION ...............

........WELL THE FOUNDERS OF THIS COUNTRY........MADE A HUGE MISTAKE.................!!!!!,,,,,,,AND
THEY FORGOT TO INSURE PEOPLES RIGHTS. SO...THEY PASSED 10 AMMENDMENTS TO INSURE RIGHTS. IT WAS CALLED

............................. .BILL OF RIGHTS. ...........FIRST 10 AMMENDMENTS

[roamer65]

13. Any change to the basic structure of the Senate requires a constitutional amendment.

2/3 of the House and Senate and 38 states to ratify.

No chance.

Period.

Only way that 57 percent will ever get away from this imbalance is exiting the republic.

That’s just the cold hard truth.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

14. That 43 percent has no conscience...

or they would have voted for impeachment twice and Jan 6 would be a national day of mourning and brett Kavanaugh would be a shit stain on the history books !!!!

[SoonerPride]

15. Minority rule is tyranny.

And that is baked into our system.