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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:34 PM Oct 2012

So, Ann Coulter & Her Pals Want To Play Word Games, Do They? Well, It's Illegal For Idiots To Vote

...in at least 3 States. But more on that later.

1st, let's look at what she thinks an idiot is.

During an interview with Piers Morgan on Friday night, Coulter stated numerous times that the definition of "idiot" does not mean what it used to mean and we should ignore the "technical mental disability" definition...

COULTER: OK, it's offensive and you're going to come up with 20 different ways to tell me it's offensive. It's offensive according to whom? Moron, idiot, cretin, imbecile. These were exactly like retard, once technical term to describe people with mental disabilities. Changing the word doesn't change the condition.

I was not referring to someone with Down syndrome. I was referring to the president of the United States.


COULTER: I didn't call the president a Down syndrome child. I used the word retard the same way people use idiot, cretin, moron and the rest of them which were all once technical terms and I had it with the language police. You were wrong that no one else is laughing. Everyone is fed up with the language police.


MORGAN: Final point on it. A little part in your brain cell should go off and say you know what, Ann, I just overstepped the mark.

COULTER: OK. Explain to me what -- why that is different, again, from cretin, moron, idiot.


COULTER:
Retard is the same as idiot, cretin, moron. It means loser. That's what it's meant for 30 years.
And the word police come in five minutes ago and say no, we're going to be bossy and tell you what to do. They're the biggest bullies of all, these self-appointed victims.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1210/26/pmt.01.html


Soooo, let's look at the dictionary definition of Idiot and how Ann Coulter thinks it should look, shall we...

idiot (id-ee-uh t )
noun

1. an utterly foolish or senseless person.

2. (no longer in technical use; considered offensive) a person of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25.

http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=idiot&o=0&l=dir


How about the etymology? It looks like it's gone full circle...

Idiocy shares with idiom and idiosyncratic the root idios, which means private, separate, self-centered -- selfish. "Idiotic" was in the Greek context a term of reproach.

When a person's behavior became idiotic -- concerned myopically with private things and unmindful of common things -- then the person was believed to be like a rudderless ship, without consequence save for the danger it posed to others.

This meaning of idiocy achieves its force when contrasted with polit(macroñ)es (citizen) or public. Here we have a powerful opposition: the private individual versus the public citizen.

http://paws.wcu.edu/churley/9_2_parker.pdf


Yes, let's take out the "technical mental disability" definitions and stick with the roots and modern usage of "idiot" when looking at the Constitutions of these States...

Mississippi Article 12, Section 241

CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI

Qualifications for electors.

Every inhabitant of this state, except idiots and insane persons, who is a citizen of the United States of America, eighteen (18) years old and upward, who has been a resident of this state for one (1) year, and for one (1) year in the county in which he offers to vote, and for six (6) months in the election precinct or in the incorporated city or town in which he offers to vote, and who is duly registered as provided in this article, and who has never been convicted of murder, rape, bribery, theft, arson, obtaining money or goods under false pretense, perjury, forgery, embezzlement or bigamy, is declared to be a qualified elector, except that he shall be qualified to vote for President and Vice President of the United States if he meets the requirements established by Congress therefor and is otherwise a qualified elector.

SOURCES: Laws, 1935, ch 117; 1950, ch 569; 1952, ch 441; 1968, ch 614; Laws, 1972, ch. 626, eff November 22, 1972.

http://www.mscode.com/msconst/12/12-241.html





Kentucky Constitution
Section 145


Persons entitled to vote.

Every citizen of the United States of the age of eighteen years who has resided in the state one year, and in the county six months, and the precinct in which he offers to vote sixty days next preceding the election, shall be a voter in said precinct and not elsewhere but the following persons are excepted and shall not have the right to vote.

1. Persons convicted in any court of competent jurisdiction of treason, or felony, or bribery in an election, or of such high misdemeanor as the General Assembly may declare shall operate as an exclusion from the right of suffrage, but persons hereby excluded may be restored to their civil rights by executive pardon.

2. Persons who, at the time of the election, are in confinement under the judgment of a court for some penal offense.

3. Idiots and insane persons.

Text as Ratified on: November 8, 1955.
History: 1955 amendment was proposed by 1954 Ky. Acts ch. 2, sec. 1; original version ratified August 3, 1891, and revised September 28, 1891.

http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/legresou/constitu/145.htm



The Ohio Constitution

(The 1851 Constitution with Amendments to 2011)

§ 5.06 Idiots or insane persons

No idiot, or insane person, shall be entitled to the privileges of an elector.

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/constitution.cfm?Part=5&Section=06


And there you have it Ann, as prescribed by you, it is proscribed for you and your fellow self-centered, selfish, senseless, foolish, idiots to vote in the above states!











BTW, how often have you been #1?

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So, Ann Coulter & Her Pals Want To Play Word Games, Do They? Well, It's Illegal For Idiots To Vote (Original Post) Turborama Oct 2012 OP
What about illegal/immoral ALIENS? yoyossarian Oct 2012 #1
Now that is scary!!! nt mfcorey1 Oct 2012 #5
God she's fucking sharp as a bowling ball... SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #2
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #3
+ Infinity! Odin2005 Oct 2012 #4
wasn't there something about voter fraud and coulter in the last election? newspeak Oct 2012 #6
Thank you, Odin Turborama Oct 2012 #7
I stated "at least 3 states" as Wikipedia has New Mexico listed Turborama Oct 2012 #8
Southern Ohio is breaking the law rbrnmw Oct 2012 #9

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
2. God she's fucking sharp as a bowling ball...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:22 PM
Oct 2012

She explains exactly why it's an insult to the mentally handicapped:

"once technical term to describe people with mental disabilities."

So to insult the President she compared him to someone with mental disabilities, and she still cannot fathom why that would hurt someone with disabilities.

When someone is that cold blooded, when they can't see past their own selfishness, there is no explaining, there is no reasoning, there is just Queen Ann and her imitation of a human being.



Response to Turborama (Original post)

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
6. wasn't there something about voter fraud and coulter in the last election?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:46 PM
Oct 2012

a question of residency? i'm not sure she should be allowed to vote.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
7. Thank you, Odin
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:41 PM
Oct 2012

That woman made me when I watched her on Piers Morgan the other day, I can't believe I sat through it all.

I don't know if you've seen this yet, but it made the ordeal worthwhile in the end: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021642342

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
8. I stated "at least 3 states" as Wikipedia has New Mexico listed
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:36 AM
Oct 2012

...as not allowing idiots to vote. However, I didn't trust the site they linked to and I'm glad I didn't.

Just found out after a fair amount of research that a referendum was held a couple of years ago and the banning of "idiots" from voting was removed from their constitution.

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/New_Mexico_Modern_Election_Language_Amendment,_Amendment_3_(2010)

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
9. Southern Ohio is breaking the law
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:14 AM
Oct 2012

The Ohio Constitution

(The 1851 Constitution with Amendments to 2011)

§ 5.06 Idiots or insane persons

No idiot, or insane person, shall be entitled to the privileges of an elector.

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