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Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:14 PM May 2022

Yes, They will Get Donald Trump..Be Patient. It will all come out. Time on Our Side.

My patience is NOT GONE..WHY?. I lived through ...WATERGATE...THAT TOOK TIME, IN THE END, NIXON WAS
GONE & HUMILIATED
...............................................................

.................Many went to prison. If you watched the whole ugly mess, as I did, you wanted it to be over..and
.................it really wasn't over till Nixon resigned. Took a long time then, and now too.
.................You got to have ..ABSOLUTE SOLID PROOF!!!

We ain't there yet, but we are getting there. The proof is gradually getting out. It will be up
to Joe Biden or a judge, if he sends Trump to prison. Yes, Trump is guilty, but the proof must be attained legally.

.....................We are still having hearings, the proof will come, and it will be.. absolute proof. Why? say that.

..............Very Simple Indeed:..Donald Trump is an absolute crook who thinks he can get away with everything

.......................Yes, it is that simple..but sometimes it takes time to get the ... ABSOLUTE SOLID PROOF

......................AND ONE MORE.....TIME IS ON OUR SIDE, NOT THE SIDE OF DONALD TRUMP!...

.....................WATERGATE BREAK IN.......On June 17, 1972..........NIXON RESIGNS..AUG 9, 1974..

...................(keep this in mind, in 1972, Nixon won reelection by defeating George McGovern..in a landslide. &
I worked for McGovern and told people about...Watergate..but the proof was not out yet. Imagine
if you can, telling people who you met, door to door about the Watergate break in & they
closed the door on you...This was fall 1972, before Nixon won. Yes, NIXON WON IN 1972

The proof came out, but it took a whole lot of time. ........ And that is the total truth!!
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Yes, They will Get Donald Trump..Be Patient. It will all come out. Time on Our Side. (Original Post) Stuart G May 2022 OP
Damn straight, Stuart G! Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #1
I hope you're right. CincyDem May 2022 #2
Exactly Rebl2 May 2022 #25
And I do NOT see....... MyOwnPeace May 2022 #34
Yep. SergeStorms May 2022 #48
This +1000! mcar May 2022 #3
K&R sheshe2 May 2022 #4
People just remember the Watergate hearings, but Deminpenn May 2022 #5
i remember hearing that from lots of people...3RD RATE BURLARY... NOT CONNECTED TO NIXON. Stuart G May 2022 #10
Hey, I voted for McGovern. gab13by13 May 2022 #19
That makes 2 of us!!!!! MyOwnPeace May 2022 #35
I figured he would get us out of Vietnam. gab13by13 May 2022 #36
If you're using the timeframe of Watergate, then the end of February 2023 is when you'd have mass Celerity May 2022 #31
Different times though mchill May 2022 #6
As long as no one invents an immortality pill ymetca May 2022 #7
Iiiiit took less than a year for the less partisan 70s era DOJ to commission a special prosecutor uponit7771 May 2022 #8
K & R malaise May 2022 #9
i think they will lock up Trump, if he doesn't die first, or go to Russia. Stuart G May 2022 #11
Nothing is going to happen to him. He is either a confidential informant, double agent or some gldstwmn May 2022 #43
Ah, bunk. I'll believe it when I see it. Firestorm49 May 2022 #12
Time is not on our side Fullduplexxx May 2022 #13
BINGO! - A 'different Republican party' MyOwnPeace May 2022 #37
A whole bunch of the Reagan gang would have gone Mr.Bill May 2022 #14
How long will you wait? SoonerPride May 2022 #15
Time is a funny thing Piasladic May 2022 #16
Time ran out on "individual one," and 10 obstruction of justice cases. gab13by13 May 2022 #20
Yes. What is that, like 200 years in prison? But no, not enough to take down TFG. gldstwmn May 2022 #44
K&R brer cat May 2022 #17
K&R - nt Ohio Joe May 2022 #18
Time is not on our side. GOP State legislatures are getting ready to overturn popular votes ZonkerHarris May 2022 #21
No, If that happens, there will be incredible reaction to overturning a candidate who has won Stuart G May 2022 #22
Do you have any sort of plan for what to do next if that doesn't happen? gldstwmn May 2022 #46
You think they'll have that "absolute positive proof" in June? They'll need it. Hoyt May 2022 #23
Maybe there is enough already. Garland knows, I don't. But Trump has Stuart G May 2022 #24
Seriously hope you are right. Hoyt May 2022 #27
Garland is hung up on that memo and James wants to further her career. gldstwmn May 2022 #50
We impeached him twice but even that wasn't enough. gldstwmn May 2022 #49
Exactly. Hoping tons of fried chicken will do him in. Hoyt May 2022 #53
Trump rso May 2022 #26
What is Biden going to do? He has no authority as president to prosecute anyone. gldstwmn May 2022 #51
Biden rso May 2022 #60
I'm hoping that they charge and convict Trump prior to the 2024 election. Dan May 2022 #28
"Time keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping... dchill May 2022 #29
I believe Trump has committed some crimes...Do you?...If you do believe that........ Stuart G May 2022 #32
I KNOW Trump is the definition of imperfect. dchill May 2022 #47
What prosecutor? Alvin Bragg? gldstwmn May 2022 #52
My fear is if we lose in November Cheezoholic May 2022 #30
We will NOT lose in November..2 words: Donald Trump Stuart G May 2022 #33
So your advice is to sit back and wait not to lose and leave it to the prosecutors? gldstwmn May 2022 #54
My advice is not sit back, participate in the election and do every thing we can do to win. Stuart G May 2022 #56
Which is exactly what I am doing Cheezoholic May 2022 #57
I lived through Watergate, too. hamsterjill May 2022 #38
Yes, we are all frustrated. I believe Garland & James will get Trump..one way or another. Stuart G May 2022 #39
And I believe you are wrong. hamsterjill May 2022 #45
I can't wait any more. Bird Lady May 2022 #40
I respectfully disagree. I also think it doesn't help to give false hope about the increasingly gldstwmn May 2022 #41
1/6 was a crime, an insurrection & people have gone to jail for it. Most people know that.. Stuart G May 2022 #42
Can you provide anything showing 70 to 80% know it was an insurrenction? gldstwmn May 2022 #55
This. nt BlackSkimmer May 2022 #63
K&R. Wednesdays May 2022 #58
Queue up Rolling Stones: raccoon May 2022 #59
Didn't President Ford pardon Nixon? Emile May 2022 #61
Yes. Nixon resigned to avoid a trial in the Senate because they knew he would be convicted. gldstwmn May 2022 #65
I believe they already have a shit ton of evidence Novara May 2022 #62
We have to believe that to be true. kentuck May 2022 #64
so you have to go back FIFTY YEARS Skittles May 2022 #66
This. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #67

CincyDem

(6,385 posts)
2. I hope you're right.
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:20 PM
May 2022

Unfortunately for Richard Nixon, he didn’t have today’s sycophantic Republican Party running full court interference in front of every step toward justice.

I appreciate your optimism and am comforted by the fact you have enough for both of us.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
34. And I do NOT see.......
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:48 PM
May 2022

a group of Republican leaders going in to tell IQ45 that he shuts up and quits his 'game' or they will make it 'messy' for him (that DID happen to Nixon - back when SOME Republicans had a soul and conscience.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
48. Yep.
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:22 PM
May 2022

The entire Trumpublican party (there's only 2 or 3 actual republicans remaining) is a criminal cartel who'll do or say anything to stay in the Big Orange Pig's good graces.

If Nixon had these criminal pricks behind him he would have laughed himself to death.

Deminpenn

(15,290 posts)
5. People just remember the Watergate hearings, but
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:25 PM
May 2022

there was a long run up from the actual break-in in 1972 to the Senate hearings and Nixon's resignation (48 yrs this August) in 1974.

For a long time, Watergate was called by lots of Americans, "just a 3rd rate burglary".

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
10. i remember hearing that from lots of people...3RD RATE BURLARY... NOT CONNECTED TO NIXON.
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:37 PM
May 2022
NO CONNECTION AT ALL..NONE PROVEN IN 1972

Celerity

(43,491 posts)
31. If you're using the timeframe of Watergate, then the end of February 2023 is when you'd have mass
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:45 PM
May 2022

resignations of elected Rethugs, the arrests of some of them, and arrests of others not in power.

The length of time between the Watergate burglars being arrested and then Nixon resigning was a little less than 2 years, 2 months.

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
8. Iiiiit took less than a year for the less partisan 70s era DOJ to commission a special prosecutor
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:30 PM
May 2022

.... for Watergate it's been more than that now and J6 was about an attempted coup

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
11. i think they will lock up Trump, if he doesn't die first, or go to Russia.
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:40 PM
May 2022

He could do that? Could he? In order to escape prison?....GO TO RUSSIA??

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
43. Nothing is going to happen to him. He is either a confidential informant, double agent or some
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:12 PM
May 2022

combo of both. They exist in the not too distant history of this country.

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
12. Ah, bunk. I'll believe it when I see it.
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:04 PM
May 2022

The days of wishful thinking are long gone. Money rules the land.

Fullduplexxx

(7,868 posts)
13. Time is not on our side
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:06 PM
May 2022

I went through Watergate and I went thru fitzmas and Mueller... Watergate was a long time ago with a different republican party

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
37. BINGO! - A 'different Republican party'
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:52 PM
May 2022

like I noted in an earlier post - a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen went to Nixon and basically told him: "It's over, kid..."

What are THESE RepubliQans doing?

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
15. How long will you wait?
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:58 PM
May 2022

I ask this in all seriousness.
At what point will you finally say enough?
If trump is not indicted in 6 months?
One year?
Two years?
A decade?

Surely there is some limit to your patience in the slow moving wheels of “Justice.”

Some of us have reached the end of our rope.

I honestly would like to know what your line is.

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
16. Time is a funny thing
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:01 PM
May 2022

Trump Org grand jury term expires this week - not extended
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/trump-organization-investigation-grand-jury/index.html

Time runs out, and more and more we are sitting around and hoping and wishing. To quote Bored of the Rings: "I sit around and pick my nose and think of things obscene." Yeah, Fitzmas missed me, and it'll miss every one of of those fucknuts.

ZonkerHarris

(24,250 posts)
21. Time is not on our side. GOP State legislatures are getting ready to overturn popular votes
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:21 PM
May 2022

tick tick tick

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
22. No, If that happens, there will be incredible reaction to overturning a candidate who has won
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:25 PM
May 2022

Legally won, and that is clear to everyone on both sides.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
46. Do you have any sort of plan for what to do next if that doesn't happen?
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:21 PM
May 2022

You know what most people are going to do? Nothing because there is nothing they can do. We depend on our voting and the judicial branch of our government to keep things in check. The court at the top is massively compromised. If Clarence and Ginny had even been accused in the 70's Thomas would be gone. Kavanaugh and Barrett would never have been confirmed.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
23. You think they'll have that "absolute positive proof" in June? They'll need it.
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:27 PM
May 2022

They’ve found lots of evidence trump is unfit for office. Guess that’s good, but everyone knew that.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
24. Maybe there is enough already. Garland knows, I don't. But Trump has
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:31 PM
May 2022

committed crimes that he was sure he was going to get away with..(my opinion, no proof), and Garland will
discover them. As will the NY State Atty General , Letitia James

....It is ok by me, if you think they will not get Trump by June. July is fine for me, or August that is ok too.
.............But Garland or James will get Trump. Why?..................................................

............Donald Trump is a classic crook who is absolutely sure he can get away with it, that is why.

.and the critical point is this: Prosecutors really enjoy getting, trying, and convicting those that believe they
that they are above the law.
........................................(Trump is such a crook)

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
50. Garland is hung up on that memo and James wants to further her career.
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:24 PM
May 2022

As soon as she turned on Cuomo I began to have my suspicions about her.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
49. We impeached him twice but even that wasn't enough.
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:23 PM
May 2022

At this point we'd have to drive the metaphorical stake through his heart.

rso

(2,273 posts)
26. Trump
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:34 PM
May 2022

Let’s not forget that even if the 1/6 Committee goes away if we lose the House, DOJ will still be under Biden at least until 1/25.

Dan

(3,579 posts)
28. I'm hoping that they charge and convict Trump prior to the 2024 election.
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:38 PM
May 2022

Because I think with Trump in real legal trouble (convicted or not), it will so depress the MAGA crowd that they won’t vote.

dchill

(38,521 posts)
29. "Time keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping...
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:38 PM
May 2022

...into the future."

That's what Steve Miller and I know to be true about time.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
32. I believe Trump has committed some crimes...Do you?...If you do believe that........
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:46 PM
May 2022

then leave it to the prosecutors to get the goods on the crook. One more &.......................

Do you think Trump is totally perfect enough to hide all the stuff he left on the trail? Evidence to prove that
he is really a crook? I don't think so. He is totally imperfect at everything important.

dchill

(38,521 posts)
47. I KNOW Trump is the definition of imperfect.
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:22 PM
May 2022

That's why he's had to have so much help to keep on violating.

Cheezoholic

(2,030 posts)
30. My fear is if we lose in November
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:39 PM
May 2022

McCarthy has already said they will shut everything down and then open investigations and damn near impeach every democrat in office they have the power to do so all the way up to Biden. The only saving grace if that happens is they can't control the DOJ. Biden's bully pulpit and the DOJ will be the last chance to take these fucks down if the repukes win in November.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
33. We will NOT lose in November..2 words: Donald Trump
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:47 PM
May 2022

Why?....He seems to be the current leader of the Puke Party. He represents the Puke Party..

..........................................also...Trump is the head puke...

.........................................Is that correct? Trump is the head puke?. If I am wrong, please correct me.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
56. My advice is not sit back, participate in the election and do every thing we can do to win.
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:38 PM
May 2022

Give money or time or both.

Cheezoholic

(2,030 posts)
57. Which is exactly what I am doing
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:12 AM
May 2022

I have 2 goals primarily. to do everything I can to take out Spartz in my district and Young in my state ALONG with smoking anyone with an R in front of their name locally. Local elections where I live tend to go D but anything bigger than the county has been going R as the years pass. Gotta get the local D's to fight like hell. Did this before here in the 80's but was a hell of a lot younger and the opposition wasn't nearly this powerful.
I have a valid fear of losing in November. Not just historically but interest in the midterms, especially where i live isn't there at all. I'm doing what I can. I have faith we can win. But I'm not going to be blind to the fact we may not and I hope way bigger D's than me have a back up plan in place to finish these criminals before all is lost.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
39. Yes, we are all frustrated. I believe Garland & James will get Trump..one way or another.
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:00 PM
May 2022

That is what I believe very deeply. Of course, I have been wrong before, and will be wrong again..

But we will all know, sooner or later we will all know.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
45. And I believe you are wrong.
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:18 PM
May 2022

I will happily admit MY error should I see Trump brought to justice. But I see nothing happening that means that at the present time. I see some tap dancing to make it appear that something MIGHT happen, but I see Trump skating every time something is about to get him. If he is not in handcuffs by 2024, he may very well be President again and this country WILL NOT survive.

You are as entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine, and I selfishly want YOU to be right, but I think the fix is already in.

Have a great evening, and we shall see.

Bird Lady

(1,819 posts)
40. I can't wait any more.
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:04 PM
May 2022

He ran the clock out for the new York indictment by stopping and waiting for the statute of limitations to run out. He will do the same with anything that comes up.
My faith in the "justice department" and Merritt Garland no longer exist. I fear that the remainder of my life will be a horror
show I can not survive. At 70 I realize my country is becoming 1930 Germany and I will be deemed useless because of my age.
The night mares do not end.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
41. I respectfully disagree. I also think it doesn't help to give false hope about the increasingly
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:06 PM
May 2022

dire situation in which we find ourselves. We need to get real about what things are going to look like should the GOP be given any sort of majority in any branch of our government. The Supreme Court is being run by a bunch of theocrats that were installed with dark money from evangelicals. Putin isn't going to die fast enough to prevent him from interfering in the mid-terms. Our House and Senate are rife with individuals who are on the take from various entities including foreign governments and are actively and openly working against the best interests of most of their constituents. Maybe someday we'll find/figure out what the deal with Merrick Garland and the DOJ is. I have a feeling he is relying on the OLC memo in regards to any prosecution of Trump. He is an institutionalist that doesn't wish to be bold or daring. He would have made a fine Supreme Court justice but is currently in the wrong job.
The difference with Watergate and today is that everyone knew what happened was a crime with Watergate and acted accordingly. Today we have roughly half of the electorate running around thinking 1/6 wasn't a crime.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
42. 1/6 was a crime, an insurrection & people have gone to jail for it. Most people know that..
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:12 PM
May 2022

Not half...but 70 to 80 percent know it was an insurrection. (which is a crime)

Novara

(5,851 posts)
62. I believe they already have a shit ton of evidence
Fri May 13, 2022, 07:52 AM
May 2022

I believe the DOJ has been working behind the scenes, but they need the J6 committee to bring these crimes to the public via public hearings in prime time the way Watergate played out. I was a kid during Watergate but I remember that when the country saw the evidence, the tide definitely turned. It went from "third rate burglary" to "impeach the motherfucker now" in a hurry. People were outraged once they saw the testimony and evidence.

The DOJ is afraid of looking political, but when the public is enraged and starts demanding prosecutions, it gives the DOJ cover and prosecuting the motherfuckers looks less political.

I believe they are working on fitting the pieces together and making a plan and I believe they will act in a public way after the initial hearings in June.

And I used to be an incredible cynic about this because I didn't see anything with my own eyes. But I think everything changes with the public hearings.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
66. so you have to go back FIFTY YEARS
Fri May 13, 2022, 08:03 PM
May 2022

how about BUSH INC being held accountable for lying their way into a war?

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