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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYes, They will Get Donald Trump..Be Patient. It will all come out. Time on Our Side.
My patience is NOT GONE..WHY?. I lived through ...WATERGATE...THAT TOOK TIME, IN THE END, NIXON WASGONE & HUMILIATED...............................................................
.................Many went to prison. If you watched the whole ugly mess, as I did, you wanted it to be over..and
.................it really wasn't over till Nixon resigned. Took a long time then, and now too.
.................You got to have ..ABSOLUTE SOLID PROOF!!!
We ain't there yet, but we are getting there. The proof is gradually getting out. It will be up
to Joe Biden or a judge, if he sends Trump to prison. Yes, Trump is guilty, but the proof must be attained legally.
.....................We are still having hearings, the proof will come, and it will be.. absolute proof. Why? say that.
..............Very Simple Indeed:..Donald Trump is an absolute crook who thinks he can get away with everything
.......................Yes, it is that simple..but sometimes it takes time to get the ... ABSOLUTE SOLID PROOF
......................AND ONE MORE.....TIME IS ON OUR SIDE, NOT THE SIDE OF DONALD TRUMP!...
.....................WATERGATE BREAK IN.......On June 17, 1972..........NIXON RESIGNS..AUG 9, 1974..
...................(keep this in mind, in 1972, Nixon won reelection by defeating George McGovern..in a landslide. &
I worked for McGovern and told people about...Watergate..but the proof was not out yet. Imagine
if you can, telling people who you met, door to door about the Watergate break in & they
closed the door on you...This was fall 1972, before Nixon won. Yes, NIXON WON IN 1972
The proof came out, but it took a whole lot of time. ........ And that is the total truth!!
Fiendish Thingy
(15,651 posts)Well stated!
CincyDem
(6,385 posts)Unfortunately for Richard Nixon, he didnt have todays sycophantic Republican Party running full court interference in front of every step toward justice.
I appreciate your optimism and am comforted by the fact you have enough for both of us.
If we lose the house in the fall, next year all these investigations go away.
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)a group of Republican leaders going in to tell IQ45 that he shuts up and quits his 'game' or they will make it 'messy' for him (that DID happen to Nixon - back when SOME Republicans had a soul and conscience.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)The entire Trumpublican party (there's only 2 or 3 actual republicans remaining) is a criminal cartel who'll do or say anything to stay in the Big Orange Pig's good graces.
If Nixon had these criminal pricks behind him he would have laughed himself to death.
mcar
(42,372 posts)Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)there was a long run up from the actual break-in in 1972 to the Senate hearings and Nixon's resignation (48 yrs this August) in 1974.
For a long time, Watergate was called by lots of Americans, "just a 3rd rate burglary".
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)gab13by13
(21,392 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts).....and there weren't that many more.....
gab13by13
(21,392 posts)Celerity
(43,491 posts)resignations of elected Rethugs, the arrests of some of them, and arrests of others not in power.
The length of time between the Watergate burglars being arrested and then Nixon resigning was a little less than 2 years, 2 months.
mchill
(1,018 posts)Right and wrong have gone out the window. All about power now.
ymetca
(1,182 posts)there is still hope...
uponit7771
(90,359 posts).... for Watergate it's been more than that now and J6 was about an attempted coup
malaise
(269,157 posts)Lock him up!
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)He could do that? Could he? In order to escape prison?....GO TO RUSSIA??
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)combo of both. They exist in the not too distant history of this country.
Firestorm49
(4,037 posts)The days of wishful thinking are long gone. Money rules the land.
Fullduplexxx
(7,868 posts)I went through Watergate and I went thru fitzmas and Mueller... Watergate was a long time ago with a different republican party
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)like I noted in an earlier post - a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen went to Nixon and basically told him: "It's over, kid..."
What are THESE RepubliQans doing?
Mr.Bill
(24,317 posts)to jail if they hadn't been pardoned by Bush Sr.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I ask this in all seriousness.
At what point will you finally say enough?
If trump is not indicted in 6 months?
One year?
Two years?
A decade?
Surely there is some limit to your patience in the slow moving wheels of Justice.
Some of us have reached the end of our rope.
I honestly would like to know what your line is.
Piasladic
(1,160 posts)Trump Org grand jury term expires this week - not extended
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/trump-organization-investigation-grand-jury/index.html
Time runs out, and more and more we are sitting around and hoping and wishing. To quote Bored of the Rings: "I sit around and pick my nose and think of things obscene." Yeah, Fitzmas missed me, and it'll miss every one of of those fucknuts.
gab13by13
(21,392 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)brer cat
(24,596 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,761 posts)ZonkerHarris
(24,250 posts)tick tick tick
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)Legally won, and that is clear to everyone on both sides.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)You know what most people are going to do? Nothing because there is nothing they can do. We depend on our voting and the judicial branch of our government to keep things in check. The court at the top is massively compromised. If Clarence and Ginny had even been accused in the 70's Thomas would be gone. Kavanaugh and Barrett would never have been confirmed.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Theyve found lots of evidence trump is unfit for office. Guess thats good, but everyone knew that.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)committed crimes that he was sure he was going to get away with..(my opinion, no proof), and Garland will
discover them. As will the NY State Atty General , Letitia James
....It is ok by me, if you think they will not get Trump by June. July is fine for me, or August that is ok too.
.............But Garland or James will get Trump. Why?..................................................
............Donald Trump is a classic crook who is absolutely sure he can get away with it, that is why.
.and the critical point is this: Prosecutors really enjoy getting, trying, and convicting those that believe they
that they are above the law.........................................(Trump is such a crook)
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)As soon as she turned on Cuomo I began to have my suspicions about her.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)At this point we'd have to drive the metaphorical stake through his heart.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Lets not forget that even if the 1/6 Committee goes away if we lose the House, DOJ will still be under Biden at least until 1/25.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)But his AG and US Attorneys do.
Dan
(3,579 posts)Because I think with Trump in real legal trouble (convicted or not), it will so depress the MAGA crowd that they wont vote.
dchill
(38,521 posts)...into the future."
That's what Steve Miller and I know to be true about time.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)then leave it to the prosecutors to get the goods on the crook. One more &.......................
Do you think Trump is totally perfect enough to hide all the stuff he left on the trail? Evidence to prove that
he is really a crook? I don't think so. He is totally imperfect at everything important.
dchill
(38,521 posts)That's why he's had to have so much help to keep on violating.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Cheezoholic
(2,030 posts)McCarthy has already said they will shut everything down and then open investigations and damn near impeach every democrat in office they have the power to do so all the way up to Biden. The only saving grace if that happens is they can't control the DOJ. Biden's bully pulpit and the DOJ will be the last chance to take these fucks down if the repukes win in November.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)Why?....He seems to be the current leader of the Puke Party. He represents the Puke Party..
..........................................also...Trump is the head puke...
.........................................Is that correct? Trump is the head puke?. If I am wrong, please correct me.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Stuart G
(38,439 posts)Give money or time or both.
Cheezoholic
(2,030 posts)I have 2 goals primarily. to do everything I can to take out Spartz in my district and Young in my state ALONG with smoking anyone with an R in front of their name locally. Local elections where I live tend to go D but anything bigger than the county has been going R as the years pass. Gotta get the local D's to fight like hell. Did this before here in the 80's but was a hell of a lot younger and the opposition wasn't nearly this powerful.
I have a valid fear of losing in November. Not just historically but interest in the midterms, especially where i live isn't there at all. I'm doing what I can. I have faith we can win. But I'm not going to be blind to the fact we may not and I hope way bigger D's than me have a back up plan in place to finish these criminals before all is lost.
hamsterjill
(15,223 posts)And I disagree with you. I share John Deans frustration.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)That is what I believe very deeply. Of course, I have been wrong before, and will be wrong again..
But we will all know, sooner or later we will all know.
hamsterjill
(15,223 posts)I will happily admit MY error should I see Trump brought to justice. But I see nothing happening that means that at the present time. I see some tap dancing to make it appear that something MIGHT happen, but I see Trump skating every time something is about to get him. If he is not in handcuffs by 2024, he may very well be President again and this country WILL NOT survive.
You are as entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine, and I selfishly want YOU to be right, but I think the fix is already in.
Have a great evening, and we shall see.
Bird Lady
(1,819 posts)He ran the clock out for the new York indictment by stopping and waiting for the statute of limitations to run out. He will do the same with anything that comes up.
My faith in the "justice department" and Merritt Garland no longer exist. I fear that the remainder of my life will be a horror
show I can not survive. At 70 I realize my country is becoming 1930 Germany and I will be deemed useless because of my age.
The night mares do not end.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)dire situation in which we find ourselves. We need to get real about what things are going to look like should the GOP be given any sort of majority in any branch of our government. The Supreme Court is being run by a bunch of theocrats that were installed with dark money from evangelicals. Putin isn't going to die fast enough to prevent him from interfering in the mid-terms. Our House and Senate are rife with individuals who are on the take from various entities including foreign governments and are actively and openly working against the best interests of most of their constituents. Maybe someday we'll find/figure out what the deal with Merrick Garland and the DOJ is. I have a feeling he is relying on the OLC memo in regards to any prosecution of Trump. He is an institutionalist that doesn't wish to be bold or daring. He would have made a fine Supreme Court justice but is currently in the wrong job.
The difference with Watergate and today is that everyone knew what happened was a crime with Watergate and acted accordingly. Today we have roughly half of the electorate running around thinking 1/6 wasn't a crime.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)Not half...but 70 to 80 percent know it was an insurrection. (which is a crime)
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Wednesdays
(17,402 posts)raccoon
(31,119 posts)Emile
(22,891 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Novara
(5,851 posts)I believe the DOJ has been working behind the scenes, but they need the J6 committee to bring these crimes to the public via public hearings in prime time the way Watergate played out. I was a kid during Watergate but I remember that when the country saw the evidence, the tide definitely turned. It went from "third rate burglary" to "impeach the motherfucker now" in a hurry. People were outraged once they saw the testimony and evidence.
The DOJ is afraid of looking political, but when the public is enraged and starts demanding prosecutions, it gives the DOJ cover and prosecuting the motherfuckers looks less political.
I believe they are working on fitting the pieces together and making a plan and I believe they will act in a public way after the initial hearings in June.
And I used to be an incredible cynic about this because I didn't see anything with my own eyes. But I think everything changes with the public hearings.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)For the goodness of humanity and faith in our justice system.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)how about BUSH INC being held accountable for lying their way into a war?
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)And nothing has changed.