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AndyS

(14,559 posts)
Mon May 16, 2022, 01:29 PM May 2022

I've noticed . . .

Every time there is an horrific mass shooting the powers that be look at how to 'make us all safer'. In almost every response it comes down to inconviencing us, the victims. Installing metal detectors, doing pat downs at outdoor concerts, holding active shooter drills in schools. Every time the solution is to imose on us, the ones being shot at.

The background check system is a fucking joke. How many of these shootings were done by someone with a manifesto posted on social media. Why doesn't the background check extend to social media? I'm told it's a violation of privacy. Why can I park my car in the Albertson's parking lot and sell my guns to the first guy with cash without a background check? I'm told it's because background checks on private sales is a needless incnovience to 'law abiding citizens'. Why can't we have a national red flag law reported to the background check system? I'm told that red flag laws are 'confiscation', the biggest boogbear in all of gundom.

When any gunner is asked about any gun regulation I'm told it's a inconvience to 'law abiding citizens'. If I ask about a national or even local safe storage law I'm told that the 'law abiding citizen' who is a 'responsible gun owner' MUST have instant access to a gun to 'protect his family' and it's an inconvience to have to unlock a gunsafe.

Why is every inconvenience heaped on us, the victims? Why do gunners have to be placated? Why does the 9% of voters who want less reguation win out over those who outnuber them 4 or 5 to 1?

Oh, that's right the gun lobby out spends us victims.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH US?

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CaliforniaPeggy

(150,705 posts)
1. Make us all safer makes us bear those "safer" rules. And it is wrong.
Mon May 16, 2022, 02:26 PM
May 2022

When cars were found to have serious safety problems, the auto industry bore the "burden" of making those cars safer.

We, the car-owning and driving public, benefited from those issues getting fixed--we didn't have to fix them ourselves.

The same idea should be applied to the gun industry.



Cheezoholic

(2,226 posts)
3. And guns should e regulated exactly like cars
Mon May 16, 2022, 03:15 PM
May 2022

Registered yearly, owners licensed, insurance required. I need a special license and training to drive a semi, should e the same to own a semi automatic weapon. Registration follows the weapons just like a car title for private sales. Oh, that's just too easy.

Captain Zero

(7,185 posts)
5. Gun insurance just like car insurance, list all drivers, list all shooters and more
Mon May 16, 2022, 03:22 PM
May 2022

For your car insurance you has to list all drivers in the household and whether they drive the car(s) or not, should be the same with gun insurance. Then we know who has access and can cross check against red flag reports and mental health interventions.

SYFROYH

(34,199 posts)
6. Its not one sided. Recent red flag laws are anti-gun violence victories...
Mon May 16, 2022, 03:27 PM
May 2022

...that burden gun owners.

Jerry2144

(2,210 posts)
10. I'd rather burden a person from obtaining an unneeded gun
Mon May 16, 2022, 04:14 PM
May 2022

than burden a person from obtaining an abortion.

No one needs a gun today, right this second, now dammit! and waiting a couple of days/weeks while a background check and psychological evaluation are completed causes no irreversible harm. Guns aren't necessary in any urban or suburban environment, especially since the range and penetration ability of modern ammunition far exceeds the construction of most urban/suburban homes. Most people in a stressful environment would likely miss their target and put the bullet in places where it should not go. Even police officers frequently miss when they shoot at criminals (unless they're innocent black men).

In rural areas, I can see the value in protecting yourself from a coyote, wolf, cougar, or another predator. A gun would be useful for that case since neighbors are far enough away that it is unlikely a missed shot would hit them. But a simple revolver, lever-action/bolt-action/pump-action rifle/shot gun would be all you need.

IronLionZion

(46,042 posts)
9. They also make it easier to get guns
Mon May 16, 2022, 03:57 PM
May 2022

by allowing concealed carry, open carry, easier permits, and so on. Background checks for crime don't do much if their first violent crime is mass shooting.

Roc2020

(1,646 posts)
12. Americans armed to the teeth isn't going away
Mon May 16, 2022, 04:17 PM
May 2022

There will be more gun violence. Only thing left is to go about life, push through the fear, be careful of surroundings, and VOTE.

Not saying give up on gun control legislation. But live life to the fullest and do not be cowed.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,043 posts)
13. My favorite was a few years ago, after some guy
Mon May 16, 2022, 04:24 PM
May 2022

sneaked guns into a theater in Colorado through a back entrance, the local movie theater was checking women's purses. Honest, the male involved didn't bring the guns in inside a purse, nor did he walk through the front entrance.

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