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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsElon Musk Demands Clarity on Twitter Fake Accounts for Deal to Move Forward
Elon Musk said his $44 billion purchase of Twitter Inc. cant move forward until the company is clearer about how many of its accounts are fake, casting fresh doubt on his planned takeover of the social-media company.
Mr. Musks latest comments add to questions about whether he is committed to concluding a deal that was struck amid a steep selloff in technology stocks. Last week, he said the deal was on hold over concerns about fake accounts on the platforma problem that has long dogged social media companies.
In a tweet early Tuesday, Mr. Musk said that Twitters chief executive had refused to show proof that less than 5% of Twitters accounts were fake. This deal cannot move forward until he does, he said.
Mr. Musk said his offer was based on Twitters filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission being accurate, and added: 20% fake/spam accounts, while 4 times what Twitter claims, could be *much* higher.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/musk-demands-clarity-on-fake-twitter-users-for-deal-to-go-ahead/ar-AAXmOvg
He's surprised there are bots?
ColinC
(8,304 posts)He basically coerced the company into selling it to him and now he's complaining about the product. What a POS
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Then that is a problem for all investors. I have no sympathy for Musk, but he relied on those reports when he made his offer.
ColinC
(8,304 posts)He ranted and raved and coerced the company and its investors into a deal. That was not an "offer," it was an ambush. Now he's complaining about it because he's an entitled prick with sketchy motives.
Zeitghost
(3,865 posts)to turn him down.
ColinC
(8,304 posts)Instead, like an entitled prick, he threw a fit until he got what he wanted and ignored the details.
Zeitghost
(3,865 posts)Is exactly what he did and he was not satisfied with Twitters answer.
I've made offers on homes and then withdrew after further inspection. And this sale has a few more zero's involved in the sale price.
That said, I'm not sure what that has to do with your claim that Twitter was somehow manipulated or forced into selling.
ColinC
(8,304 posts)And signed the deal. He waited weeks before even addressing the issue.
My claim is that he is an entitled prick. Based on his whining and complaining about twitter not selling to him until he got what he wanted, as well as ignoring the fine print and rushing into a billion dollar deal without the due diligence.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,331 posts)Hes over leveraged and he knows it.
He says he can do his own analysis to show bots are a larger percentage. Question is, why didnt he do this prior to the offer?
ColinC
(8,304 posts)herding cats
(19,566 posts)At a glance it appears he knowingly and deliberately made statements to cause people to leave the platform and scare investors. The stock has dropped dramatically since he began his campaign to undermine its worth post his offer.
He hinted yesterday a deal for a lower price wasn't out of the question. He's manipulating the deal in a way which should be illegal I would think, but he's mega rich so I'm sure there's some loophole he plans to use a plebeian such as myself would not have access to.
Igirl
(80 posts)Then they are lying to the SEC. The only thing he is paying for is users. If the users are wrong then so is the valuation.
ColinC
(8,304 posts)BTW: Welcome to DU!
Igirl
(80 posts)Any large company goes through due diligence Pryor to sale. If you can validate the numbers, you dont have a product.
ColinC
(8,304 posts)Instead he coerced the company to sell it to him, skips the fine print, rushes through signing and then complains about the product after. Totally makes sense 😂
Igirl
(80 posts)He is in due diligence where twitter needs to provide the data. Once they prove the data then it moves to signing a deal. 🙄
BannonsLiver
(16,411 posts)Link to tweet
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jcgoldie
(11,635 posts)...because I have thought it many times but never done so, that you have one of my favorite usernames on DU. Cheers.
ColinC
(8,304 posts)ColinC
(8,304 posts)Igirl
(80 posts)That announcement was after my comments
but
Does that diminish what his contribution is to our environment and his advancement of EV and green energy
no. He has one vote. The same as all of us.
Maybe more consuming to my thought process is that he has changed his vote. He can have anything in the world and he is devoted to green technology
.but hes changed his vote.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,501 posts)people with zero power or resources to fight back, etc. etc., that's all good? Got it!
It's also not as simple as "he only has one vote". He is building a massive propaganda apparatus and pimping republican extreme right bullshit. Because he is only committed to himself and his bottom line. If he gave two shit about the environment, he wouldn't be aligning with climate change deniers and lunatics. FFS, it's not that complicated.
Igirl
(80 posts)You have the delusion that the world is black and white. All republicans deny climate change and all democrats love unions. No democrats love guns and all violence is from Republicans. Someone who voted D for 25 years and commits to vote R tomorrow means war on his ideals that have done more for the planet than any any other Democrat or Republican in the last 5 years.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,501 posts)love the part where you dismissed everything with "black and white". Bet it sounded super deep in your head too. Seriously, what is it with the weird celebrity worship. I mean, I guess, "me want money and power" counts as an "ideal", in some twisted way.
OH, and he didn't just decide yesterday that the *libs are out oppressing people ". If he truly believes this. He'd have to be an idiot or a sociopath. If that's what you think of your boy. Then I don't know what to tell you. I'm going with option 3. Which is he's doing all this performance art to manipulate the markets. Make more dough, and on and on.
BannonsLiver
(16,411 posts)"his contribution to our environment"
PT Barnum rule applies here.
Igirl
(80 posts)The guy thats done more for EV vehicles than anyone on the planet? His company has invented the battery technology that makes solar and wind energy viable for cities and residential?
BannonsLiver
(16,411 posts)You can say that again.
ColinC
(8,304 posts)Igirl
(80 posts)Yes. If you want to go through history and erase every contribution from someone that you dont agree with politically, its a narrow world view.
ColinC
(8,304 posts)Who actually developed and marketed the tech which you credit. He largely did nothing more than obtain the capital.
Igirl
(80 posts)Its his vision. He actually does participate in the process to the extent of actually visualizing the products like solar shingles that the teams design. Would the technology be where it is today without Musk and Tesla? No.
ColinC
(8,304 posts)I find it pathetic that people disregard the accomplishments of actual people in favor of megalomaniacs and billionaires.
Celerity
(43,461 posts)He has the board over a barrel.
Sure they could sue him, but he will tie then up in courts for years as the firm likely further haemorrhages market cap valuation
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Captain Zero
(6,820 posts)Now Trump is disseminating links for his truthsocial on twitter today.
I think Elon found this out a week or two ago because it explains a lot of his squirrel moves.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)I mean, even beyond spam and bots, regular users use pseudonyms / "pen names."
Even I use an abbreviated version of my name there.
Artists looking for commissions have all kinds of weird names, including pretend company names.
Oh, and I bet there are plenty of catish too.
Oh, and there are the parody accounts like Devin Nunes cow!
Including all those, I wouldn't be surprised if only 20% of users were "real" ha
Does he even understand what social media is?
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)Back around 2012 ish when Zuckerberg took it public. I remember articles about skewed numbers during the offering because so many users had extra accounts to play games, etc
tinrobot
(10,909 posts)What an idiot.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Stock trading @$40 per share.
Side note: permanently banned fro twitter for commenting on Ted Cruz's post.
Only complaints came fro MTG, Cawthron, and Cancun Cruz. I don't wanna hear about Twitter's bias against conservatives!
haele
(12,663 posts)But since even casual Twitter users have known that anywhere from 15 -20% of Twitter is bots, and another 20% are sock puppets, he should have been able to figure out that only half of Twitter is probably real and can be further monetized.
But since he's an egotistical boy-troll, it probably never occurred to him that a good number of his Twitter followers are not real individuals.
Haele
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)trump has a sad.
marmar
(77,084 posts).... until it's on a blue plaque.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,427 posts)tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)Link to tweet
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: A 3rd party Twitter audit shows a whopping 70.2% of Elon Musk's twitter followers are fake.
Is Elon using bots to manipulate Twitter? 🤔
We performed an audit using a tool created by the Washington state based software company SparkToro, which analyzes Twitter followers of any account, and examines 25+ factors to identify the percentage of "bots" and other "fake" followers that follow the account.
The audit revealed that Elon Musk's twitter account not only had more fake followers than most, but revealed details about a number of his 93,790,063 followers.
41% of Elon Musk's sampled twitter followers had display names that matched spam-correlated signals.
83% of Elon Musk's sampled followers have a suspiciously small number of followers.
78% of Elon Musk's sampled followers follow an unusually small number of accounts.
71% of Elon Musk's sampled followers used a location that does not match any known place name.
For someone who says the purchase of Twitter hinges on the number of bots on the platform, Elon Musks unusually high number of fake followers should be of significant interest to the public./
crickets
(25,981 posts)Elon, faking his own popularity? Say it ain't so! *insert appropriate Shakespearean quote here*