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Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
Tue May 17, 2022, 02:19 PM May 2022

The Supreme Court leak was intended to blunt the impact of the decision

Just like Barr's statements on the Mueller Report.

It's hard to take to the streets when you are thinking "this is not the final decision, it could change".

By the time the decision comes out next month it will be "old news".

Our puppet masters had to make sure to blunt its effect on the midterms.

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The Supreme Court leak was intended to blunt the impact of the decision (Original Post) Hamlette May 2022 OP
No chance in hell will this be old news. peacefreak2.0 May 2022 #1
Yup. We're just girding our loins. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #9
+1, the decision will still be hard to take and the loathing of SC's will be organic uponit7771 May 2022 #29
Ill considered as that plan is, I agree with you. Scrivener7 May 2022 #2
Old news? CrispyQ May 2022 #3
I think that was the plan, but the impact won't be blunted Bettie May 2022 #4
Problem is inthewind21 May 2022 #13
This is people's lives Bettie May 2022 #22
If true, they've totally misread PatSeg May 2022 #25
you are right. samsingh May 2022 #5
Or it was leaked to 'chastise' conservative judges who like Roberts consider Alito an extremist emulatorloo May 2022 #6
If that was the plan - it failed Pachamama May 2022 #7
It Hasn't Failed Yet RobinA May 2022 #12
Everyone you know inthewind21 May 2022 #15
If accusations of the leak have allegations of a crime, Tetrachloride May 2022 #8
I Considered This RobinA May 2022 #10
Good observation. n/t Peregrine Took May 2022 #11
Absolutely. hamsterjill May 2022 #14
We needed inthewind21 May 2022 #16
I expect Democrats to outsmart Republicans. hamsterjill May 2022 #27
Could the leak have been intended to test the waters? dlk May 2022 #17
"It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not part of the big club" - George Carlin AZLD4Candidate May 2022 #18
Yup, but it's not over. Fight! Vote! Joinfortmill May 2022 #19
I honestly think Alito directed someone supply his screed to a right wing site Warpy May 2022 #20
Except it won't work this time. ananda May 2022 #21
Not so much blunted as to get ahead of dissents nuxvomica May 2022 #23
No because we haven't lost the right yet budkin May 2022 #24
If that's Rebl2 May 2022 #26
I kinda had the same thought drmeow May 2022 #28

CrispyQ

(36,487 posts)
3. Old news?
Tue May 17, 2022, 02:25 PM
May 2022

Some of us have been in this fight since the 60s & 70s & we're not going back.

Also, I disagree that it was leaked to blunt the impact, but rather it was leaked to lock in the votes.

Bettie

(16,117 posts)
4. I think that was the plan, but the impact won't be blunted
Tue May 17, 2022, 02:36 PM
May 2022

because the second it is released, women lose rights in a bunch of states.

They lose their personhood, to use the right's wording. They lose agency over their bodies. They have fewer rights than a corpse.

Women and decent men won't let this stand, at least I hope not.

(Yes, I know there are right wing women who want this, but that is not the majority of us, not by a long shot.)

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
13. Problem is
Tue May 17, 2022, 03:50 PM
May 2022

How many times have we heard (fill in the blank here) won't let this stand! Yet here we are.

Bettie

(16,117 posts)
22. This is people's lives
Tue May 17, 2022, 04:14 PM
May 2022

if I'm wrong, well, I guess we (women) will be less than full citizens, without even the right to life while we are of reproductive age.

That's their goal.

PatSeg

(47,547 posts)
25. If true, they've totally misread
Tue May 17, 2022, 04:22 PM
May 2022

how people feel how reproductive rights. Once again, living in their own bubble, they are tone-deaf to the world they live in.

emulatorloo

(44,156 posts)
6. Or it was leaked to 'chastise' conservative judges who like Roberts consider Alito an extremist
Tue May 17, 2022, 02:47 PM
May 2022

None the less, if you are correct, it is never going to be ‘old news’ to people who care about women’s health and women’s rights.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
7. If that was the plan - it failed
Tue May 17, 2022, 02:48 PM
May 2022

Everyone I know has said that if it becomes the final decision, there will be even more anger and hell to pay after we have all been clearly expressing in the meantime what we think about this.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
12. It Hasn't Failed Yet
Tue May 17, 2022, 03:37 PM
May 2022

Time will tell. I'm not saying it will or it won't, I just don't have any trust in the process anymore. Bizarro world is beyond my ability to predict. I have PTSD from predicting that no way would Trump win the nomination, then - become President.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
15. Everyone you know
Tue May 17, 2022, 03:54 PM
May 2022

Is a very small # compared to EVERYONE. EVERYONE said when the Access Hollywood video came out, "The people won't let this stand" yet Trump became president. Then the Russia mess. EVERYONE said, the pubic won't let this stand! and on and on and on. And you can go back in history and just rinse and repeat.

Tetrachloride

(7,863 posts)
8. If accusations of the leak have allegations of a crime,
Tue May 17, 2022, 02:50 PM
May 2022

a gentle inquiry to the DOJ by the right wing justices and senators could be a pandora’s box the RW doesn’t expect.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
10. I Considered This
Tue May 17, 2022, 03:33 PM
May 2022

as a plausible scenario. Not that I think it will work. Or not. Plus, why not wait until after the midterms? But it seems like some Repub idea of a plan. Also, it gives them a good idea of what people are REALLY GOING TO HATE about it so they can sand down the rough edges. Again, I'm not saying it seems like a GOOD idea, but it's an idea.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
14. Absolutely.
Tue May 17, 2022, 03:53 PM
May 2022

We need Democrats fighting for us NOW!!! Not when the final opinion is rendered. That will be too late.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
16. We needed
Tue May 17, 2022, 03:56 PM
May 2022

Democrats to VOTE in massive numbers for the past 30 years. Yet here we are. What do you expect DEMS to do at this stage of the game. The court is packed and the fix is in. Can't un-ring those bells.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
27. I expect Democrats to outsmart Republicans.
Tue May 17, 2022, 04:37 PM
May 2022

I expect a lot when my life and the lives of our daughters may be on the line.

I don’t much like the “we can’t do any thing” attitude. Figure something out and try at least.

dlk

(11,574 posts)
17. Could the leak have been intended to test the waters?
Tue May 17, 2022, 03:57 PM
May 2022

Did they want a preview of the reaction to this radical opinion? And what has happened with the investigation into the leaker?

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
20. I honestly think Alito directed someone supply his screed to a right wing site
Tue May 17, 2022, 04:08 PM
May 2022

If anything, it was a trial balloon on the court's part. I don't think they expected the reception it got. I honestly think they thought it would be popular, not a just a minority pleaser.

I also don't think anyone expected an ecclesiastical opinion with next to nothing in the way of legal opinion. It shows his absolute unfitness for a civil court. It's an opinion from a deeply religious and misogynistic man who knows he has no legal leg to stand on.

One hopes the other justices will take note of this and issue legal opinions instead of religious ones. If it's the latter, those won't stand long.

Self styled conservatives in general and Republicans in particular have never shrunk from governing this country against the will of the people. We've been governed by and for the tiny minority since Nixon got in. I fully expect this Vatican court to overturn Roe, but I expect them to do it piecemeal, increasing the latitude of slave states to erect hurdles to women and clinics without completely overturning the decision. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

Or they'll overturn it and there will be a firestorm.

nuxvomica

(12,434 posts)
23. Not so much blunted as to get ahead of dissents
Tue May 17, 2022, 04:18 PM
May 2022

The opinion has such poor logic and citation, dissents are likely to be devastating so the leak allows it to get into the public conversation without peer response. To some people, it may appear to be the whole court's opinion, to be somehow official. In that way it is just like Barr's "summary" of the Mueller Report, which was designed to create an indelible first impression in conflict with the actual report.

drmeow

(5,022 posts)
28. I kinda had the same thought
Tue May 17, 2022, 08:01 PM
May 2022

but they may have miscalculated. When the decision is officially released, there are still going to be massive protests and, if we're smart, we'll be slamming every Republican candidate with this in campaign ads for the next two (or more) generations until it is codified into law.

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