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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Supreme Court leak was intended to blunt the impact of the decision
Just like Barr's statements on the Mueller Report.
It's hard to take to the streets when you are thinking "this is not the final decision, it could change".
By the time the decision comes out next month it will be "old news".
Our puppet masters had to make sure to blunt its effect on the midterms.
peacefreak2.0
(1,023 posts)Dont piss off half of this country and expect it to go away.
Baitball Blogger
(46,750 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Scrivener7
(50,977 posts)CrispyQ
(36,487 posts)Some of us have been in this fight since the 60s & 70s & we're not going back.
Also, I disagree that it was leaked to blunt the impact, but rather it was leaked to lock in the votes.
Bettie
(16,117 posts)because the second it is released, women lose rights in a bunch of states.
They lose their personhood, to use the right's wording. They lose agency over their bodies. They have fewer rights than a corpse.
Women and decent men won't let this stand, at least I hope not.
(Yes, I know there are right wing women who want this, but that is not the majority of us, not by a long shot.)
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)How many times have we heard (fill in the blank here) won't let this stand! Yet here we are.
Bettie
(16,117 posts)if I'm wrong, well, I guess we (women) will be less than full citizens, without even the right to life while we are of reproductive age.
That's their goal.
PatSeg
(47,547 posts)how people feel how reproductive rights. Once again, living in their own bubble, they are tone-deaf to the world they live in.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)emulatorloo
(44,156 posts)None the less, if you are correct, it is never going to be old news to people who care about womens health and womens rights.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Everyone I know has said that if it becomes the final decision, there will be even more anger and hell to pay after we have all been clearly expressing in the meantime what we think about this.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)Time will tell. I'm not saying it will or it won't, I just don't have any trust in the process anymore. Bizarro world is beyond my ability to predict. I have PTSD from predicting that no way would Trump win the nomination, then - become President.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Is a very small # compared to EVERYONE. EVERYONE said when the Access Hollywood video came out, "The people won't let this stand" yet Trump became president. Then the Russia mess. EVERYONE said, the pubic won't let this stand! and on and on and on. And you can go back in history and just rinse and repeat.
Tetrachloride
(7,863 posts)a gentle inquiry to the DOJ by the right wing justices and senators could be a pandoras box the RW doesnt expect.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)as a plausible scenario. Not that I think it will work. Or not. Plus, why not wait until after the midterms? But it seems like some Repub idea of a plan. Also, it gives them a good idea of what people are REALLY GOING TO HATE about it so they can sand down the rough edges. Again, I'm not saying it seems like a GOOD idea, but it's an idea.
Peregrine Took
(7,416 posts)hamsterjill
(15,223 posts)We need Democrats fighting for us NOW!!! Not when the final opinion is rendered. That will be too late.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Democrats to VOTE in massive numbers for the past 30 years. Yet here we are. What do you expect DEMS to do at this stage of the game. The court is packed and the fix is in. Can't un-ring those bells.
hamsterjill
(15,223 posts)I expect a lot when my life and the lives of our daughters may be on the line.
I dont much like the we cant do any thing attitude. Figure something out and try at least.
dlk
(11,574 posts)Did they want a preview of the reaction to this radical opinion? And what has happened with the investigation into the leaker?
AZLD4Candidate
(5,705 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,445 posts)Warpy
(111,305 posts)If anything, it was a trial balloon on the court's part. I don't think they expected the reception it got. I honestly think they thought it would be popular, not a just a minority pleaser.
I also don't think anyone expected an ecclesiastical opinion with next to nothing in the way of legal opinion. It shows his absolute unfitness for a civil court. It's an opinion from a deeply religious and misogynistic man who knows he has no legal leg to stand on.
One hopes the other justices will take note of this and issue legal opinions instead of religious ones. If it's the latter, those won't stand long.
Self styled conservatives in general and Republicans in particular have never shrunk from governing this country against the will of the people. We've been governed by and for the tiny minority since Nixon got in. I fully expect this Vatican court to overturn Roe, but I expect them to do it piecemeal, increasing the latitude of slave states to erect hurdles to women and clinics without completely overturning the decision. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
Or they'll overturn it and there will be a firestorm.
ananda
(28,870 posts)nt
nuxvomica
(12,434 posts)The opinion has such poor logic and citation, dissents are likely to be devastating so the leak allows it to get into the public conversation without peer response. To some people, it may appear to be the whole court's opinion, to be somehow official. In that way it is just like Barr's "summary" of the Mueller Report, which was designed to create an indelible first impression in conflict with the actual report.
budkin
(6,711 posts)Itll just be double the outrage.
Rebl2
(13,535 posts)what they think that it will-be old news- they are very much mistaken!
drmeow
(5,022 posts)but they may have miscalculated. When the decision is officially released, there are still going to be massive protests and, if we're smart, we'll be slamming every Republican candidate with this in campaign ads for the next two (or more) generations until it is codified into law.