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EU to demand reforms as condition for funding Ukraine's post-war reconstruction (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2022 OP
Not sure how practical it is to expect them to fight corruption, etc if ColinC May 2022 #1
These are EU delegates. Igel May 2022 #4
Yeah I got the impression they took some major steps that direction ColinC May 2022 #5
Why would they fund rebuilding? Turbineguy May 2022 #2
Even if Russia funds it through seized assets, Igel May 2022 #6
ummm russia should be paying for ukraine reconstruction no the EU nt msongs May 2022 #3
I remember those pallets of cash unloaded at the airport in Afghanistan pecosbob May 2022 #7

ColinC

(8,304 posts)
1. Not sure how practical it is to expect them to fight corruption, etc if
Tue May 17, 2022, 06:23 PM
May 2022

Everything is blown to smithereens and half their population is displaced or dead

Igel

(35,332 posts)
4. These are EU delegates.
Tue May 17, 2022, 10:23 PM
May 2022

They will eat lunches that would cost $350/plate while discussing terms for emergency famine relief. With complaints that inferior quality food was provided.

I'd note that Zelenskyy had, in fact, made moves against some of Putin's BFF oligarchs in the year prior to the Spec Mil Op (which is re-fighting the Great Patriotic Spec Mil Op).

ColinC

(8,304 posts)
5. Yeah I got the impression they took some major steps that direction
Tue May 17, 2022, 10:25 PM
May 2022

But your description definitely fits the insanity of the request.

Igel

(35,332 posts)
6. Even if Russia funds it through seized assets,
Tue May 17, 2022, 10:29 PM
May 2022

many of those assets will have been seized by the EU.

Bureaucrats bureaucrat.

There was a M*A*S*H episode that summarized it neatly. A regular was asking for, I believe, new boots. The supply sargeant had them, argued. Why? Because he had them and that meant he had them, something in demand. That meant power. Now, if he *handed them over* he wouldn't have them, and meant he'd have *less* power. His power depended not on service, but the restriction of service. And in exchange for giving up power, he wanted to exchange that power for power. "What are you going to give me?" And he named things that the regular character wouldn't have at hand, but which could be held over his head.

The EU wants to use power to gain power.

They're supply sargeants or petty bureaucrats whining about $350/plate lunches.

They may do good things. I mean, it's possible. They *are* the rulers, those who build and enforce the system.

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
7. I remember those pallets of cash unloaded at the airport in Afghanistan
Tue May 17, 2022, 10:55 PM
May 2022

IIRC more than half of the money was effectively stolen. The EU is right on this one.

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