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TomClash

(11,344 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:01 PM Oct 2012

Ezra Klein: The Nate Silver Backlash

Which brings me to the backlash against Nate Silver.

. . .

So before we deal with anything Silver has specifically said, it’s worth taking in the surrounding landscape: Every major political betting market and every major forecasting tool is predicting an Obama victory right now, and for the same reason: Obama remains ahead in enough states that, unless the polls are systematically wrong, or they undergo a change unlike any we’ve yet seen in the race, Obama will win the election.

It’s important to be clear about this: If Silver’s model is hugely wrong — if all the models are hugely wrong, and the betting markets are hugely wrong — it’s because the polls are wrong. Silver’s model is, at this point, little more than a sophisticated form of poll aggregation.

But it’s just as important to be clear about this: If Mitt Romney wins on election day, it doesn’t mean Silver’s model was wrong. After all, the model has been fluctuating between giving Romney a 25 percent and 40 percent chance of winning the election. That’s a pretty good chance! If you told me I had a 35 percent chance of winning a million dollars tomorrow, I’d be excited. And if I won the money, I wouldn’t turn around and tell you your information was wrong. I’d still have no evidence I’d ever had anything more than a 35 percent chance.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/10/30/the-nate-silver-backlash/


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Ezra Klein: The Nate Silver Backlash (Original Post) TomClash Oct 2012 OP
Ha! Good luck explaining odds, Ezra cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #1
Setting us up to let republickcon election fraud SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #2
Who, Klein? Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #3

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
1. Ha! Good luck explaining odds, Ezra
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:04 PM
Oct 2012

If that were doable the lines for lottery tickets and slot machines would be considerably shorter.

And Ezra's point is missed by both sides. I suspect that most DUers don't really grok how bad a 75% chance is in a life or death matter like avoiding a Romney Presidency.

 

SubgeniusHasSlack

(276 posts)
2. Setting us up to let republickcon election fraud
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:04 PM
Oct 2012

blatantly steal this election.

We will not take it like the sheep we were in 2000.

Burn, baby, burn.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. Who, Klein?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:08 PM
Oct 2012

I don't see it that way--more like a rational interpretation of what a statement about the odds actually means.

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