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JI7

(89,251 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:29 PM Oct 2012

I Support Obama More This Year than 4 YEars ago , anyone else ?

does anyone else support Obama more this time around than 4 years ago ?

4 years ago part of the excitement was getting back the white house, getting Rid of Bush . we were going to make history with Obama or hillary . the campaigns itself were exciting. and when we won there was a sense of relief.

but this time around i am more for Obama himself. i think he has proved himself and this time i think it's more of him deserving another 4 years. he has earned it.

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I Support Obama More This Year than 4 YEars ago , anyone else ? (Original Post) JI7 Oct 2012 OP
I expect less of him now edhopper Oct 2012 #1
The " Halo Effect " wore off, but he hasn't !!!!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2012 #2
the thing is i never supported him because of the "halo effect" or similar things JI7 Oct 2012 #20
I did,, I saw him as an Anti-Shrub Savior, what he is orpupilofnature57 Oct 2012 #29
Great Minds.. I was thinking the same thing yesterday. rainlillie Oct 2012 #3
"so much grace and so much class"... BlueNoteSpecial Oct 2012 #59
I do. He's been tested in every conceivable way, and TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #4
He has, hasn't he? Inuca Oct 2012 #7
Not silly.. I feel the same way. rainlillie Oct 2012 #11
I do too. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #27
RIGHT ON!!!!!!!! ailsagirl Oct 2012 #50
I love him more than four years ago because underthematrix Oct 2012 #5
Not more, but most definitely NOT less n/t Inuca Oct 2012 #6
+1 Ditto. Whovian Oct 2012 #9
My support for Obama is the same. My disdain for his opponent is higher. tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #8
Ditto peace frog Oct 2012 #40
yes because I've seen his substance in action & have enormous respect for him Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #10
This is the most important election of my life. n/t EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #12
I don't think we will ever have the opportunity to vote LuckyStrykes Oct 2012 #13
I do. After all the obstructionist congress put him through I'm twice the supporter I was then!! /nt MatthewStLouis Oct 2012 #14
There's no doubt RiskWrangler Oct 2012 #15
He put it all on the line with ACA loyalsister Oct 2012 #45
I was for Obama for who he is.. and it's only gotten stronger! Cha Oct 2012 #16
In 2008, there was much talk of PUMAs; ain't none of that now. I did not support the President in Texas Lawyer Oct 2012 #17
I may be wrong, but I believe all the remaining disgruntled PUMAs attend Romney rallies these days Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #19
yeah, that's the thing, i definitely Hate Romney while McCain i could still respect JI7 Oct 2012 #25
I guess you could say I support him more since I didn't vote for him last election former-republican Oct 2012 #18
Yes, as a Bill but mostly Hill fan, I voted Obama out of party duty. This time, however, libdem4life Oct 2012 #21
Me too. Liberalynn Oct 2012 #57
Absolutely 1gobluedem Oct 2012 #22
I appreciate more what hard work he does. Whisp Oct 2012 #23
+1 politicasista Oct 2012 #31
I do treestar Oct 2012 #24
Not me but have donated every month. Logical Oct 2012 #26
Four years ago, McCain didn't scare the *bleep* out of me. Kalidurga Oct 2012 #28
My support has increased LeftInTX Oct 2012 #30
YES, YES, YES Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #32
Can't say that I do. I'm not a former TeaPubliKlan, I oppose the Turd Way, I don't have a TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #33
TWITT Is Far More Dangerous 1ProudAtheist Oct 2012 #34
Yep, I do jumptheshadow Oct 2012 #35
Yes We CAN!!!!!! goclark Oct 2012 #36
Same here. I supported Clinton in the campaign and got behind Obama only after it was clear bluestate10 Oct 2012 #37
Yes. And can you imagine how much better things would be if 2010 hadn't lost the FailureToCommunicate Oct 2012 #38
Wish he could- ruffburr Oct 2012 #39
I DO. I've learned a lot about him, myself, my community, America and the world the last 4 years. freshwest Oct 2012 #41
count me in, onethatcares Oct 2012 #42
You Are Exactly titanicdave Oct 2012 #43
There is some decency in McCain, and he doesn't buy all of the fundamentalist BS grantcart Oct 2012 #44
I've given more money this time! OKNancy Oct 2012 #46
I would have to say yes Skittles Oct 2012 #47
Absolutely!! Hulk Oct 2012 #48
Very much so. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #49
yup. but...i'm still hoping I get to vote for Hillary eventually... DonRedwood Oct 2012 #51
Same here and something tells me that the Benghazi BS is after her as much as Obama. libdem4life Oct 2012 #60
Kick! sarcasmo Oct 2012 #52
What you said n/t gulliver Oct 2012 #53
I am more against Mitt Romney than I was against John McCain - If that counts Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #54
or any other republucan candidate than I can remember. That's including trick Dick. demosincebirth Oct 2012 #55
Yes. Four years ago it was emotional; now it is pragmatic. katmille Oct 2012 #56
Welcome to DU, katmlllie! cbayer Oct 2012 #58
Yes, definitely. Maven Oct 2012 #61

edhopper

(33,582 posts)
1. I expect less of him now
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:31 PM
Oct 2012

I am more realistic. i think he will do some good. As opposed to Romney who will destroy us.
Between his less than progressive agenda and the GOP in his way, I don't expect that much.
Still support him and we need him to win.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
20. the thing is i never supported him because of the "halo effect" or similar things
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:51 PM
Oct 2012

he is what he has always been in his life. an intelligent man who has concerns for the people. someone who has interest in knowing things and learning and how to help people.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
29. I did,, I saw him as an Anti-Shrub Savior, what he is
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:05 PM
Oct 2012

a fountain of fortitude, compassion and discernment .

rainlillie

(1,095 posts)
3. Great Minds.. I was thinking the same thing yesterday.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:33 PM
Oct 2012

It brings me to tears when I think about all the crap he has had tossed his way, yet he still carries himself with so much grace and so much class. I will proudly vote for him again next week.

BlueNoteSpecial

(141 posts)
59. "so much grace and so much class"...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:53 PM
Oct 2012

...this reminds me so much of the late, great Jackie Robinson, who endured so much with dignity, thick skin & an unwavering calm. When it was time to lace 'em up & go to work, he never missed a game, he always gave his all, for the team, for the league, for his people, which of course meant all of Us. Never giving up, never giving in, always answering the call.....for America. This great man is our president, and he has earned the respect, the love, the support, the next 4. My only regret is that I had but one vote to cast, again, for the Honorable Barack H. Obama.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
4. I do. He's been tested in every conceivable way, and
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:34 PM
Oct 2012

we know what we're getting. I want four more years of it.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
40. Ditto
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:12 PM
Oct 2012

Much greater disdain for Romney than McCain. Although both VP picks were equally frightening and disqualifying, in my book.

LuckyStrykes

(115 posts)
13. I don't think we will ever have the opportunity to vote
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:39 PM
Oct 2012

for a a candidate of his calibre again. Obama will probably be the last statesman to hold the office.

After this, the deluge. Of reality star type nominees.

RiskWrangler

(31 posts)
15. There's no doubt
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:41 PM
Oct 2012

I am 2x more supportive of President Obama now than 4 years ago, because honestly I wanted to see what he would do. Once I saw him take that first step in making HealthCare changes, now I want to make sure that it gets a better foothold so we can make it even better in the future. No better time to try and kill something then when it is young and weak and people haven't gotten accustomed to it, so my focus is even greater now.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
45. He put it all on the line with ACA
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012

Even when he saw the first signs that there was some extreme opposition, he didn't give up and pursue something easier. He fought hard for that and doesn't get enough credit. Flaws aside, he worked his tail off and invested every single penny of his political capital.

Texas Lawyer

(350 posts)
17. In 2008, there was much talk of PUMAs; ain't none of that now. I did not support the President in
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:44 PM
Oct 2012

the Democratic Primary (too moderate for my taste -- a fact that was readily apparent from anyone who read his autobiographical writings), but I certainly supported him in the general election.

I might be more supportive of the President today than I was 4 years ago (I certainly dislike Ryan as much as I disliked Palin -- who was at least funny to laugh about -- and I dislike Romney whereas I was opposed to McCain's policies but not disgusted by him like I am disgusted by Romney).

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
19. I may be wrong, but I believe all the remaining disgruntled PUMAs attend Romney rallies these days
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:51 PM
Oct 2012

I'm just saying

JI7

(89,251 posts)
25. yeah, that's the thing, i definitely Hate Romney while McCain i could still respect
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:55 PM
Oct 2012

Palin was a joke but Romney has turned out to be worse than her for me.

but still i look at Obama himself and regardless of who was running against him i feel he deserves it. the most decent person i can think of to run against Obama would have been Huntsman but even in that case i would feel Obama deserved it.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
18. I guess you could say I support him more since I didn't vote for him last election
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:46 PM
Oct 2012



I will now though.
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
21. Yes, as a Bill but mostly Hill fan, I voted Obama out of party duty. This time, however,
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:52 PM
Oct 2012

it's out of respect and awe. And while on the subject, Hillary has shown class, skill, team-playing, and all-around excellence around the world and I'm damn proud of her, too.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
57. Me too.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:39 PM
Oct 2012

I wanted Hiliary in the Primary in 2008 but I voted for President Obama out of party loyalty as well.

I will add my own opinion here as well. I admit I was very angry with him during the whole first debt cieling debate because I wanted SS and Medicare completely off the table in the discussions, but I've gotten over it.

Over the past year or so I have come to admire President Obama a great deal because of what he has been able to accomplish in spite of the PUKES total obstructionism and overwhelmng odds. Is he perfect no but then again nobody in this world can be perfect. But I truly believe he is trying his hardest and is acting out of what he believes is in the best interests of the American people.

Plus the difference between candidates has never been more stark. President Obama is so far superior to Mittens, that it elevated my desire to see the President re-elected even more. The Democrat always gets my vote, but my enthusiasm is even higher than normal to proudly vote for our candidate, our President.

1gobluedem

(6,664 posts)
22. Absolutely
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:53 PM
Oct 2012

After what he's been forced to endure for the last four years I marvel at what he's managed to accomplish.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
23. I appreciate more what hard work he does.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:53 PM
Oct 2012

That's for sure.

This time last election I, and probably most everyone, had no idea what was waiting for him in January.

Thank Goddess it was him that was elected. If it was Clinton or McCain...... dreadful thoughts I am having here.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
31. +1
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:24 PM
Oct 2012

Still support him.

One reason is because the bullying tactics, anti-Obama mess have gotten nastier and it makes the good reason to respect him even more.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. I do
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:54 PM
Oct 2012

Had not thought of that, but 4 years ago there was still some question of how much experience he had. He's shown he is up to the job.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. Four years ago, McCain didn't scare the *bleep* out of me.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:02 PM
Oct 2012

Also, I never saw Obama as someone with a halo. I think now he has sort of earned a halo. I would say fit him for a halo if he was a bit more liberal, but as it is, he has done really well. He gets my vote and I talk to people about voting for him. Bottom line is I support him more this election season than last.

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
30. My support has increased
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:05 PM
Oct 2012

Voted for him in 2008, however after 2000 & 2004 my hopes for seeing a democrat win were low.

Now that he's been in office I don't want him to be taken out by a unethical scumbag. Romney is a nightmare. Obama has implemented reforms that are steering our country in the right direction. McCain was twice the man that Romney is. We can't let Obama lose to a POS.

The teabaggers are a scourge on this nation. Jon Huntsman was the only decent republican in the primaries and they totally rejected him.

Romney will be a nightmare for our country.

Sorry if I'm rambling........

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
32. YES, YES, YES
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:51 PM
Oct 2012

In 2008 I was excited about electing an adult to the White House. I feared for our nation given the economic meltdown that was happening.

But I didn't fear that McGramps was going to totally destroy the country. I was very worried about Palin and her cronies. But overall I figured McGramps might not totally devastate us while at the same time knowing that Obama was a much better choice.

This year with the GOP attack on women, healthcare, protection of the super wealthy, discard of Hispanics, hatred of the LGBT community, love of war, war, war (to profit their corporate masters), I am terrified.

Robme/Lyin-Ryan will destroy this nation. There will be nothing left of it after 4 years. The Senate will remain in Democratic control so egregious legislation will face an uphill battle. The House will remain with the pukes. They will vote 100 times to kill Roe v. Wade, take away funding from Planned Parenthood and give the right for a man to marry his firearm.

But the conservatives will progress many very dangerous things all the same not to mention loading the Supreme Court with the likes of the papist Scalia. I don't know if we can rely on the Democratically controlled Senate to reject extreme judicial nominations.

No, this year the election is about our future.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
33. Can't say that I do. I'm not a former TeaPubliKlan, I oppose the Turd Way, I don't have a
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:53 PM
Oct 2012

bipartisanship fetish, I don't believe the TeaPubliKlans are capable of compromise and sure as hell don't believe they have anything to offer worthy of compromise, I do not buy that corporate welfare and conscripted customers will lead to single payer, I oppose the security state, my reading of the Constitution does not accept a Commander in Chief has the authority to act as judge, jury, and executioner, I despise the wasteful and failed drug war, I want the security state dismantled, and I don't subscribe to fawning over "the stakeholders", I believe war crimes apply to the tip top as well as lowly grunts.

That said he is my only plausible option and Weird WilLIARd is fantastically dangerous with his saber rattling with Russia, active robber-baron status, and utterly out of touch ways.

No love, just my vote.

 

1ProudAtheist

(346 posts)
34. TWITT Is Far More Dangerous
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:55 PM
Oct 2012

For America than Ol'e Fart McLame was. At least Johnny Boy knew how things are handled in Washington. He would have been far less likely to juct come out and do something idiotic than Robme is. Robme owes too much to too many unscrupulous people to have any faith that he wouldn't sell the entire country down the road for a bag of magic beans.

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
35. Yep, I do
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:57 PM
Oct 2012

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I was a Hillary supporter, although I was always going to vote Democratic.

The President has done a good job in many ways, although I have steadfastly advocated for single payer in healthcare and Social to have Security and Medicare taken totally off the table.

My support turned to admiration after I read two Vanity Fair articles about his decision-making process on Libya and Osama Bin Laden. With the Libya decision, especially, he seemed like the lone juror in 12 Angry Men whose logic and balance gradually convinced those around him to eschew easy, non-effective decisions in favor for a more considered approach.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
37. Same here. I supported Clinton in the campaign and got behind Obama only after it was clear
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:02 PM
Oct 2012

that Clinton had no chance of winning the nomination. So, I was a reluctant Obama supporter. Not anymore, President Obama is the best President of my lifetime and stands well among the greats of the office.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
38. Yes. And can you imagine how much better things would be if 2010 hadn't lost the
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:04 PM
Oct 2012

House, and governors, all across this land?

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
39. Wish he could-
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:09 PM
Oct 2012

Have got more done but repub B.S. stopped much of it, I wish he had not done some of the things he has, But All in all he is My Pres.

onethatcares

(16,169 posts)
42. count me in,
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:14 PM
Oct 2012

You are right, he has proved himself.

We'll talk with him about the other things when he's sitting in the Oval office. OK?

titanicdave

(429 posts)
43. You Are Exactly
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:22 PM
Oct 2012

correct, President Obama has proved himself time after time after time and has prevailed in spite of Mitch (the human turtle hybrid) McConnell being determined to make him a one term president........OBAMA-BIDEN 2012

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
44. There is some decency in McCain, and he doesn't buy all of the fundamentalist BS
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012

There is no decency in Romney and his BS is worse than the fundamental BS.
 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
48. Absolutely!!
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:48 PM
Oct 2012

Four years ago he didn't have every teabagger crackpot out of the closet and into the streets calling him disgusting names such as "communist, nazi, Kenyan-Muslim, etc". He didn't have the cowardly, seditious repukkke congress-porks fighting him AND the country every step of the way.

I've seen enough bigoted hatred from the reichwingers to nearly justify a Civil War II. He helped us to avoid the second coming of the Great Depression; but it may result in the second coming of the Civil War in this country.

Fox-propaganda network and the reich-wing teabaggers on the radio ought to be charged with sedition, as they are only too happy to drag this whole country into ruin in order to make this President fail somehow. Once this election is over, it's time to call these worthless, disgusting "fair and balanced pigs" for what they are!

YES, I'm more convinced that President Obama is the ONLY CHOICE for this country, if we plan to continue to pull out of the smelly ditch that the last 8 years of lunacy put us into.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
49. Very much so.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:03 PM
Oct 2012

Frankly, I was put off by many of his 2008 supporters and their expectations and rhetoric.

Maybe my lack of disillusionment owes to the fact that I didn't have a bunch of illusions to be dis'ed.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
60. Same here and something tells me that the Benghazi BS is after her as much as Obama.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:18 PM
Oct 2012

I'm starting to believe her when she says "no". Both she and Bill could both retire from gutter politics now as Democratic Elders.

katmille

(213 posts)
56. Yes. Four years ago it was emotional; now it is pragmatic.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:38 PM
Oct 2012

This time, I am more practical but still convinced that he will continue to lead this country. I am 73, white, female and liberal. I marched against the Vietnam war and for Civil Rights. I hoped that he could bring the country together, and I underestimated the bigotry that still exists in our country. Yet our president continues to believe in this great country. I pray that he wins and I pray for his safety.

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