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skip fox

(19,359 posts)
Fri May 20, 2022, 07:57 PM May 2022

If Ginni had the gall to tell AZ lawmakers to overturn an election, would she have the gall to leak

Alito's SC draft opinion?

She's ideologically driven and will stop at little to get her way as we keep learning.

I think she wanted the draft to be public so that judges would feel "locked into" their positions.

In fact I would be surprised if the leaker was someone else (not including Clarence who she likely persuaded to do so).

If the investigators at the SC or FBI found out it was Ginni, will we ever know?

I'm guessing they already know.

(Friday afternoon speculations. Good ones.)

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If Ginni had the gall to tell AZ lawmakers to overturn an election, would she have the gall to leak (Original Post) skip fox May 2022 OP
Solid assessment. blm May 2022 #1
Yes, and her damn husband needs to be disbarred.....🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy May 2022 #2
Already reached this conclusion. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #3
By the process of elimination, who else would it be? lees1975 May 2022 #4
And an awfully crappy thing for a wife... VarryOn May 2022 #19
If she's the leaker, she needs to be arrested and charged.... VarryOn May 2022 #5
The answered is probably well known. skip fox May 2022 #8
It wouldn't surprise me that you're correct... VarryOn May 2022 #11
Or they are waiting until Feb. 2023 to announce their findings skip fox May 2022 #13
It does seem like the story is fading, I agree... VarryOn May 2022 #16
The fact we haven't heard who the leaker was either means they don't yet know or that Ginni did it. skip fox May 2022 #17
What if someone else is the leaker? iemanja May 2022 #12
Yes. I agree it would be quite rich if it were Mrs. Thomas... VarryOn May 2022 #14
To me, the crime iemanja May 2022 #15
I don't like the draft either, but it's a 3-month-old draft... VarryOn May 2022 #18
Maybe but I still don't know how she gets access to the draft unless Alito was... Thomas Hurt May 2022 #6
Justices share drafts with other justices. Also clerks and IT have access. LeftInTX May 2022 #7
My money says it's Ginni Deuxcents May 2022 #9
Clue: Ginni "The Traitor" Thomas, in the library, with the photo copier. Hassler May 2022 #10
Where there's smoke, there's fire . . . . no_hypocrisy May 2022 #20

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
3. Already reached this conclusion.
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:05 PM
May 2022

Clarence Thomas was very taken back about the leak, and I suspect it was a red herring. Not sure why he would bother since these things tend to come out.

lees1975

(3,879 posts)
4. By the process of elimination, who else would it be?
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:05 PM
May 2022

If she's willing to overthow democracy in favor of autocracy, then she'd turn the brief over in a heartbeat. She's the only real suspect. What will be done about it? Nothing, of course.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
5. If she's the leaker, she needs to be arrested and charged....
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:07 PM
May 2022

It shouldn't be that hard to figure out who the leaker is. Noth that ,any people would have had access

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
8. The answered is probably well known.
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:22 PM
May 2022

And it was probably easy to find out.

If it's not known, it was probably because investigators got to a point in their investigation where the answer became obvious and they shut down their work, hoping the question would go away.

Or maybe they are still trying to figure out how to release their findings.

(If Thomas retires from the bench "to spend more time with his family," we'll know for sure.)

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
11. It wouldn't surprise me that you're correct...
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:45 PM
May 2022

They know who did it or were close to figuring it out and pulled out. There's more interest in protecting all the justices--irrespective of judicial philosophy--than embarrassing the one who did it or who had a staff member who did it.

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
13. Or they are waiting until Feb. 2023 to announce their findings
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:50 PM
May 2022

after Clarence retires for the bench.

Logic: Clarence, realizing the finding will end his career on the SC, has asked investigators/John Roberts not to announce their findings until he can retire without being replaced with a Biden nominee since he knows McConnell will not bring a Biden nominee to the Senate floor if Republicans take the Senate.

Our job, then, is to keep the Senate by getting out the vote.

And we should also keep publicly questioning who the leaker was. It seems as though the story is dying. Keep the heat on.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
16. It does seem like the story is fading, I agree...
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:06 PM
May 2022

With so much going on in the world, it's easy for this kind of story to go away.

I really want the leaker caught. I do believe a conservative did it with hopes of keeping everyone tacked down to the 5-4 result. But, whoever did it--correct side or wrong side--they need to be held to account. If this were to become a common thing, it could cut both ways in the long run.

And the thing that bugs me the most is that one person (or I suppose more than one) decided they knew what was best and released the draft. This may end up having the exact opposite result than what they hoped for.

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
17. The fact we haven't heard who the leaker was either means they don't yet know or that Ginni did it.
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:13 PM
May 2022

I'm basing this on the realization that it was probably simple to discover who the leaker was.

(So they agreed to wait to release findings until next Feb.)

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
14. Yes. I agree it would be quite rich if it were Mrs. Thomas...
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:55 PM
May 2022

But, it it were an illegal act (and from what I read, most think it was), then sure, the leaker should suffer the consequences. This kind of act cannot be allowed to be commonplace.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
18. I don't like the draft either, but it's a 3-month-old draft...
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:18 PM
May 2022

One can hope the final opinion is significantly different. I dont expect it, but I can hope.

Nonetheless, the leaker was wrong to believe they knew it was the better idea to release it.

For one to say it was OK to release the draft because it was a bad opinion is like saying a murder was OK because the victim cheated on his wife, kicked a puppy or voted for Trump.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
6. Maybe but I still don't know how she gets access to the draft unless Alito was...
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:12 PM
May 2022

sharing with Thomas. Do Justices' spouses have free reign in the Court?

LeftInTX

(25,555 posts)
7. Justices share drafts with other justices. Also clerks and IT have access.
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:15 PM
May 2022

Clarence could have handed it to Ginni on a flash drive for all we know....
He could have emailed it...
Who knows???

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