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malaise

(269,004 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:10 PM Oct 2012

So several people on Fire Island decided

to stay - this lady on CNN said she stayed because they said it was a Cat1.
That's not what they said.
Anyway every single marina was destroyed so they can't be rescued.
Looks like most of the people who refused to move were not poor or vulnerable.

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So several people on Fire Island decided (Original Post) malaise Oct 2012 OP
Arrogance exacts a cost Cirque du So-What Oct 2012 #1
not poor or vulnerable. just stupid ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2012 #2
the Fire Island homeowners I know are Wall Streeters. grasswire Oct 2012 #14
last I heard, 40 people are still stranded grasswire Oct 2012 #3
You're so right malaise Oct 2012 #6
children still missing? grasswire Oct 2012 #8
I would never leave my child. I would also head for safer ground. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #10
Yeah, where did you hear this? It's been haunting me all night. Barack_America Oct 2012 #12
Oh my God! That makes me angry. I might be CRAZY enough to stay Thegonagle Oct 2012 #18
What part of "Get the Fuck Out of There" is hard for people? alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #13
Unfortunately, saving them keeps them in the gene pool. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #4
That's cold but you do have a point malaise Oct 2012 #11
I admit it's harsh. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #15
You are correct malaise Oct 2012 #16
The storm contaminated the entire water supply there obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #5
If we didn't help people who did stupid things nichomachus Oct 2012 #7
Stupid people create more jobs than billionaires. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #17
Stooooopid, arrogant people. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #9

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. last I heard, 40 people are still stranded
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:17 PM
Oct 2012

they took out 14 last night with the National Guard, couldn't get the rest. Some houses there collapsed, some washed away. Unfortunate that other people have to suffer because of this. (Families of first responders who have to bail them out)

malaise

(269,004 posts)
6. You're so right
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:09 PM
Oct 2012

A policeman died up in Queens at Breezy Point near that horrific fire.
They were all told to leave but they know best.
Seriously when the President comes on TV to tell residents in states that a mammoth life threatening storm is coming, you think they'd protect their children and move. One woman is looking for her two children - three years old and four years old - as waves hit her SUV and she ran to get help and left them in the vehicle - shakes head.

People don't really understand the wrath of nature.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
12. Yeah, where did you hear this? It's been haunting me all night.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:02 PM
Oct 2012

Can't find a news report that discusses this.

Thegonagle

(806 posts)
18. Oh my God! That makes me angry. I might be CRAZY enough to stay
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 06:13 AM
Oct 2012

if I believed I had an adequate wind-resistant and flood-proof structure for shelter, and plenty of water and supplies.

But I'm not STUPID enough put small children through that.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. What part of "Get the Fuck Out of There" is hard for people?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:04 PM
Oct 2012

It was even explicitly stated this time around that they'd be putting first responders' lives in jeopardy.

Selfish assholes.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. Unfortunately, saving them keeps them in the gene pool.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:37 PM
Oct 2012

There should be a low priority of rescuing people who are able to evacuate, yet refuse to do so.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
11. That's cold but you do have a point
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:16 PM
Oct 2012

because these are not poor or vulnerable folks. As other posters have pointed out - this was sheer arrogance.
Nature rules - I have the ultimate respect for nature.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
15. I admit it's harsh.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 04:36 AM
Oct 2012

But, if resourses are limited, how should they be prioritized? Towards those who try to cooperate with society, or those who resist it?

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
5. The storm contaminated the entire water supply there
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:40 PM
Oct 2012

Idiots.

It was a mandatory evacuation there, so they should drop them water and food and flint and tents and sleeping bags, and leave them there until other things get taken care of.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
7. If we didn't help people who did stupid things
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:11 PM
Oct 2012

We could eliminate 50 percent of fire department and EMT jobs.

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