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Fri May 27, 2022, 02:55 AM

Isn't law enforcement overwhelmingly pro 2A?

I always found it odd that cops generally favor the availability of guns and ammunition in the hands of the public.

This seems illogical to me. Unless the underlying message is "we can't protect you."

When the general public is armed, it puts everybody including cops at greater risk of harm and it forces cops to err on the side of using lethal force themselves.

Thus I must conclude that gun love is absurd and irrational and undeserving of respect as public policy.

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Reply Isn't law enforcement overwhelmingly pro 2A? (Original post)
Frasier Balzov May 27 OP
JI7 May 27 #1
SoCalDavidS May 27 #2
Frasier Balzov May 27 #3
SoCalDavidS May 27 #12
ManiacJoe May 27 #4
genxlib May 27 #5
brooklynite May 27 #6
madville May 27 #8
brooklynite May 27 #9
madville May 27 #10
Cosmocat May 27 #7
sarisataka May 27 #11
Midnight Writer May 27 #13

Response to Frasier Balzov (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 02:59 AM

1. Not really , I think they tend to be for gun control but they are right wing on everything else .

When they use to endorse democrats the gun control issue was often one of the reasons why .

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Response to Frasier Balzov (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 03:06 AM

2. I Think It's Clear As Day

Cops LOVE their guns, and don't want ANY restrictions which prevent them from acquiring as many different kinds of guns as they like. Even if it means others can get their hands on the same types of guns.

It stands to reason, that when your job involves you using a gun every day, you obviously enjoy doing so, and will want to use them even when off duty.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #2)

Fri May 27, 2022, 03:10 AM

3. But when they find themselves on the receiving end of hostile fire

don't they have a Come To Jesus conversion?

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Response to Frasier Balzov (Reply #3)

Fri May 27, 2022, 12:23 PM

12. Did Steve Scalise?

To answer your question, No. They LOVE their guns too much. Pry it from their cold dead hands.

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Response to Frasier Balzov (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:31 AM

4. The lower ranking cops tend to be pro 2a.

The political appointed chiefs usually politically mimic the majors appointing them.

The patrol officers don't mind an armed public because they know the vast majority of the public is law abiding, including their own families.

Yes, part of the message is "cops cannot protect individuals."

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Response to Frasier Balzov (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:38 AM

5. Safety aside

I would think the limitations on registration and tracking would be maddening to me.

There was a GQ article posted here yesterday about how purposely bad the tracking system is because the gun lobby wants it that way. I find that outrageous and if I were in law enforcement I would take it as a professional affront. One can only imagine how many crimes have gone unsolved or how many additional people have been hurt and killed due to hamstrung investigations.

The most maddening part of that is that enhanced record keeping and tracing capabilities would not hamper the 2nd Amenment at alll. It only exists because of the paranoia that the gun humpers have

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Response to Frasier Balzov (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:41 AM

6. No in fact they're not

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:52 AM

8. Cops are very Pro-2nd Amendment for themselves

Law Enforcement is very Pro-2nd Amendment for themselves. That’s why law enforcement organizations generally will endorse gun control measures as long as there are exemptions for LE officers, on and off duty.

For the rest of the public though, not so much. I would say they skew more anti-2nd for everyone else but that’s also regional, rural cops are going to be more pro and urban ones likely more anti.

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Response to madville (Reply #8)

Fri May 27, 2022, 09:50 AM

9. ThAt was exactly the interpretation I was expecting to see...

“Cops like to shoot guns”, therefore “cops like the 2nd Amendement”

Most police never fire a gun, and they don’t like situations where people can shoot them. The official policy of almost every Police Dept is better regulation of firearms.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #9)

Fri May 27, 2022, 10:38 AM

10. Most are fine with more restrictions as long as

They don’t apply to them personally, like they were exempt from the 1994 AWB, even for personally owned firearms. Just like they mostly support concealed carry restrictions/licensing while at the same time they have a federal law that makes them exempt from concealed carry laws in all 50 states, both on and off duty and even for retired officers.



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Response to Frasier Balzov (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 07:48 AM

7. YEP

It makes absolutely no sense, but the appeal of "conservatism" to have people slavishly back whatever stupid as shit that it promotes despite how it runs completely counter to their own personal interests is endless.

Just as we are seeing increasing numbers of hispanics join team R, just as there are those who are gay who are on team R, etc., etc., etc., the overwhelming majority of LEO don't bat an eyelash at the increased possibility of ending up in a confrontation with some lunatic with body armor, an AR and more ammo than they could possibly use cause LIBERALS!!!!

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Response to Frasier Balzov (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 10:43 AM

11. Depends...

Generally, rank and file are pro-2A for the reason you said- they know they won't be there at the time of the crime. Typically they do favor background checks and red flag laws.

Upper level LEOs tend to be political creatures. It the mayor, electorate or whomever they owe their job to is pro-2A they will follow suit. If pro gun control, they will also call for control.

In all cases they will favor LEO exemption to gun control laws.

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Response to Frasier Balzov (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2022, 01:13 PM

13. Cops I personally know (small, rural town) are very pro-gun. Don't know that applies everywhere.

I worked with a lot of local cops in my job and got to know some of them pretty well. They all thought I was foolish for not owning a gun.

Pretty much every household around here has guns.

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