The only thing that can stop a bad guy with gun, is a good guy with a gun.

[fightforfreedom]

The very first time I heard this I knew it was a big pile of horse shit. Now we have absolute proof it is a big pile of horse shit . An army of good guys could not stop one teenage bad guy with a gun from killing children. As a matter of fact, one teenage bad guy turned an army of good guys into a bunch of chickens running around with their heads cut off.

The Republicans and pro gun extremists need to remove that lie from their list of lies. By the way, their lies, like Trumps lies are child like foolish.

Have you ever noticed when Republicans and pro gun extremists talk about a bad gut with a gun, it's never in the plural. They act like it is one guy, with the same AR15 running around the country committing all the mass murders.

I wish someone, anyone , would ask Republicans and pro gun extremists to define Bad Guy. Most likely, a bad guy with a gun was a bad guy before he became a bad guy with a gun. We need to know who is a bad guy before they become a bad guy with a gun.

Perhaps we should take a survey of all men in America. Are you a good guy or bad guy? If you answered bad guy, answer this question, Will you become a bad guy with a gun in the future.

I wish someone , anyone, would ask the Republicans and pro gun extremists, How many bad guys are there in America? We need to know and we need to know how many of them will become a bad guy with a gun.

If we look at the statistics, millions upon millions of men in America fit into at least one of these categories. Alcoholism, drug abuse, mental illness, anger problems, abusive behavior, wife beaters, children beaters, liars, corruption, thieves, believers of violent ideologies, believers of conspiracy theories are facts, which proves they don't know the meaning of theory, racists, white supremacists, fascists, did I miss anything?

Most of these millions of men are bad guys. Which one is going to become a bad guy with a gun? This is the reason we need good gun laws in America. This is why we need to ban military assault rifles. America has become the home of complete non-sense.

[TigressDem]

1. Clan based mentality. Bad guy is someone who isn't in my inner circle, but steps on my land.

So EVERYONE who is not me, does not look like me, think like me, talk like me is automatically an intruder in my world.

WHEN people first came together and formed clans to protect themselves and hold property and hunting areas, it was unfortunately the way of the world.


NOW that we have evolved, grown up civilization and laws to handle many of the issues, there are still those who cling to the fears of clan based mentality and make everything and US VS THEM issue.

They are literally being "hijacked" by their "lizard brain" (the amygdala) so trying to talk them down from the ledge is almost impossible as their lizard brain is saying they need to behave this way to survive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala_hijack


An amygdala hijack is an emotional response that is immediate, overwhelming, and out of measure with the actual stimulus because it has triggered a much more significant emotional threat.

[1] The term was coined by Daniel Goleman in his 1996 book Emotional Intelligence: Why It Can Matter More Than IQ

[fightforfreedom]

3. I am really, really, tired of so many American falling for child like, foolish lies.

It's embarrassing. It makes all of us look like child like fools around the world. People around the world are saying, what the fuck is wrong with the American people. That is a fact.

[TigressDem]

7. To be clear, it's not an excuse.

It takes EFFORT to go against your instinct and behave like a civilized being.

Americans NEED TO MAKE THE EFFORT.

We SHOULD be better than this, but the Klan and those wanting an Oligarchy keep poking people in their lizard brain to get these kind of results.


If you look at how much of the brain is occupied by the amygdala, there is no way it should be controlling our thoughts or actions.

Yet if someone is intellectually lazy, they won't fight it and behave like adults do.

[TigressDem]

8. Also to be clear, are you saying that a scientific understanding of the brain is a lie?

Just because I can see why the people who act like this are stuck in their own shit doesn't mean I think they don't have options or a responsibility to get out of their shit and join evolved humans.

What I am saying is that when we don't educate ourselves our brains don't get used properly and it leaves us open to acting on pure instinct from a time when everything was there to kill us and/or eat us.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. Maybe we should go with not bullying people after we restrict guns.

[fightforfreedom]

4. I was bullied as a kid, I did not turn into a mass murderer of kids.

Being bullied is wrong, we should do everything we can to stop it. but it is never going to go away completely.

My father told me what to do when I was being bullied by kids a lot bigger than me. He said, knock the hell out of them. I was not a fan of his advise, but I did what he said, I fought. To my great surprise the bullies either ran away or they stopped bullying me. It's a part of life, a part of growing up and learning the ways of the world and asshole people.

[Paladin]

5. I think the "good guy with a gun" talking point has suffered fatal damage.

Courtesy of the poorly trained, astoundingly chickenshit law enforcement types, in and around that Uvalde TX elementary school.

Oh sure, every once in a great while, some decent and brave individual with a firearm will prevent something bad from happening. But in terms of being an ongoing slogan for the nut case pro-RKBA types, "A good guy with a gun" is done for. One of the very few positives from the Uvalde tragedy.

[fightforfreedom]

6. Thank you, your post is correct.

There is no logic, facts, statistics, that show a good guy will beat a bad guy with a gun. It's pretty much a draw. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

[Mariana]

9. Why do you consider those chickenshit cops to be "good guys with guns"? nt.

[Amishman]

10. We're seeing a corollary to that questionable statement

'When faced with mortal danger, few people have what it takes to be that good guy.'

even the gun nuts will struggle to disagree with that one.

[RussBLib]

11. and 3 days after Uvalde, Ted Cruz repeats it at the NRA

convention in Houston.

As if nothing had happened in Uvalde. Cruz says that stupid phrase from the NRA podium, and everyone cheers. This says to me that no amount of reality can shake some people from their delusions. And the GOP exploits it to the max.

And Trump says the same thing.

So, to me, the only thing that can stop that shit is if some mad gunman attacks the private school where the DC pols send their kids and murders many of them.

Maybe then....