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Mon May 30, 2022, 04:32 PM

An idea to start protecting students and teachers tomorrow...

Some won't like the idea of hardening schools but firearms ain't going anywhere for a long time...

You can get a nice big steel storm shelter that'll fit around 25 kids...

AR-15 resistant.

$10k a classroom. Bought by a District in bulk, probably half that. Not really that giant. Not sure if useful upstairs.

They can be moved into the room in sections and then welded together over a weekend.

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Reply An idea to start protecting students and teachers tomorrow... (Original post)
WarGamer May 2022 OP
Takket May 2022 #1
WarGamer May 2022 #2
Chin music May 2022 #3
Beachnutt May 2022 #4
RicROC May 2022 #5
rsdsharp May 2022 #6
WarGamer May 2022 #9
rsdsharp May 2022 #10
dsc May 2022 #7
WarGamer May 2022 #8
Chin music May 2022 #11
WarGamer May 2022 #14
WarGamer May 2022 #15
Chin music May 2022 #16
WarGamer May 2022 #17
WarGamer May 2022 #18
Chin music May 2022 #19
WarGamer May 2022 #20
Chin music May 2022 #23
WarGamer Jun 2022 #24
dsc May 2022 #13
PufPuf23 May 2022 #12
Tarc May 2022 #21
WarGamer May 2022 #22

Response to WarGamer (Original post)

Mon May 30, 2022, 04:35 PM

1. as absurd as that is...

it is profoundly disturbing that this is far more likely to be implemented than an actual ban and confiscation of of assault weapons

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Response to Takket (Reply #1)

Mon May 30, 2022, 04:36 PM

2. because ban and confiscation will NEVER happen. It's rainbows and unicorns.

This would work... if the design of the school and class room worked.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #3)

Mon May 30, 2022, 04:49 PM

4. Tax gun sales

to pay for public safety shelters.

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Response to WarGamer (Original post)

Mon May 30, 2022, 05:21 PM

5. I'm sure the teacher of that classroom could use that $10,000

Money can be found in the US for 'things' but is scarce for people.

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Response to WarGamer (Original post)

Mon May 30, 2022, 06:00 PM

6. Looks like it might get a bit stuffy, by-and-by.

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Response to rsdsharp (Reply #6)

Mon May 30, 2022, 06:45 PM

9. stuffy, definitely... but safer.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #9)

Mon May 30, 2022, 07:59 PM

10. At least until the oxygen runs out.

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Response to WarGamer (Original post)

Mon May 30, 2022, 06:02 PM

7. That would take up about a fourth of my classroom

which is quite crowded as it is.

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Response to dsc (Reply #7)

Mon May 30, 2022, 06:45 PM

8. The dimensions could be tailored to the room...

If 3rd graders are all standing, shoulder to shoulder you can probably fit 20 in a space 8x8'

I don't like this option more than anyone else... but there WILL be another school shooting. There's NOTHING we can do to stop it.

So protect the kids and teachers.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #11)

Tue May 31, 2022, 05:33 PM

14. I hear you... I hear the passion

But bring reality into play

ZERO gun legislation will become law... especially ANYTHING that might make a difference.

Even IF we got 51 votes... and the filibuster killed, The SCOTUS will reject it all, 100% that's reality. Hell... they even flipped California's 21 age requirement and took apart Californias Assault Weapons regulations...

So... protect the kids.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #11)

Tue May 31, 2022, 05:36 PM

15. Also... don't forget... the worst school shooting I can think of was VA TECH

The killer used a handgun with 10rd magazines (also some 15 rd ones too)

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Response to Chin music (Reply #16)

Tue May 31, 2022, 05:48 PM

17. I am right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting

He killed 32 people armed with TWO Glock 19 9mm handguns.

He had a mix of 10 round and 15 round capacity magazines (10 round are the "low capacity" version)

The police responded within minutes of the shooting and killed him less than 15 minutes after the attack started.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #16)

Tue May 31, 2022, 05:51 PM

18. Back to your other post...

It's necessary to PROTECT schools because


1) SCOTUS will block ANY gun legislation cuz Constitution.

2) Manchin, Sinema

3) EVEN IF a new Assault Weapons Ban went into effect, there are still handguns.

4) EVEN IF all guns were banned there are 350 million guns in the country.


If we don't rewrite the entire Constitution (my choice) then I can't imagine a path that gets rid of guns in the US in the next 50 years.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #19)

Tue May 31, 2022, 09:02 PM

20. It's necessary to be a realist.

The Courts have taken a hard right turn the last decade.

CALIFORNIA!!!! got it's age 21 Law overturned by the Courts... and their Assault Weapons regulations were thrown out by a High Court and pending SCOTUS review...

AND their high capacity magazine law is tied up in Court, on it's way to SCOTUS.

The Clinton AWB wouldn't pass muster with THIS SCOTUS today.

Keeping schools unsecured is stupid. There is a serious problem with psychos and easy guns.

Protect our kids.


Don't get me wrong... with a magic wand I'd make every gun disappear. But that won't happen.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #23)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 12:24 AM

24. No argument...

What you're talking about is a multi generation effort to change culture.

But it's not going to come from legislation unless we suddenly find ourselves with a 5-4 majority on SCOTUS.

And even then... there's the problem of 350 million guns ALREADY in circulation.

I DO NOT have the answer to the gun fetishists and murderers.

We're in a tough spot.


You say things like "winding down the culture"... what's that mean?

If you're talking about younger people being more anti-gun, then yes in a few decades there may be the rising tide capable of defeating the Constitution at the highest levels. We're clearly a broken society... incredibly violent. I think without guns these people would find other weapons. Guns just make it easy for them.

I'm VERY pessimistic... it's my inner misanthrope showing.


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Response to WarGamer (Reply #8)

Tue May 31, 2022, 06:43 AM

13. My room is about 16 by 16 so 8 by 8 is one fourth of the room

and I have over 20 high schoolers so I doubt it would even fit everyone.

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Response to WarGamer (Original post)

Mon May 30, 2022, 11:06 PM

12. Sorry, this idea is less than helpful. nt

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Response to WarGamer (Original post)

Tue May 31, 2022, 09:32 PM

21. Is someone dim enough to think this is a viable idea, or is this satire?

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Response to Tarc (Reply #21)

Tue May 31, 2022, 10:00 PM

22. What's your answer? This should be good.

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