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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe sooner Romney locks it up the better for the President.
It removes the excitement of the race for the GOP nomination and takes the media focus off the Republicans and puts it back on the President and other more important issues.
It also puts pressure on Romney to identify and clarify his positions... and ten months of Romney "clarfying" his positions will get awfully dull and likely turn off many voters. On the other hand it could get interesting if Willard continues to make dumb statements when unprepared and speaking off the cuff. Either way President Obama benefits.
monmouth
(21,078 posts)on his income tax reports. When is he required to disclose them?
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I hope.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)But he should release them. Hopefully public pressure will make that happen.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)and they should even if not a requirement.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)just like they did Obama's Birth Certificate
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Funny how the Tea Party - with all of their outrage about Obama's birth certificate - doesn't seem to have nearly as much interest in demanding that Mitt release his tax returns.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)telling the same story over and over again, program after program. They pick 4 subjects and tell the story in 6 different ways ad nauseum. Talk about free advertising. Even if it is adverse, it is advertising.
Rarely do they mention Obama's accomplishments or show much of his speeches.
How many times do you need to put down Romney, Gingrich or Santorum and get any effect? Watch one news program and you've watched them all. On top of that, Rachel has gotten to the point where she describes the same instance in three different ways. I finally had to quit watching her, although I used to love her show. That technique grates on my nerves.
Grumpy...need another cuppa.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I think it still captures alot of eyeballs but I agree its become boring and nauseating.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)If Romney has the required number of delegates how can anyone else jump in?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)I think filing dates and momentum will keep others from coming in late.
I also think that the longer the gop race goes, the better for Obama, to a certain point. Another month or two of republican infighting is good for Obama. Once we get to March or April, the focus needs to shift to the gop nominee vs. Obama, for the reasons mentioned in your OP.
Edit to add link to delegate tracking: http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I agree the Republican infighting is good and it may not stop even if Mittens locks it up. The Teaparty and hard rightwing are already pissed and will get even more pissed if they are ignored.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)It's just a jr. high popularity contest for them.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Normally I would agree to know who their nominee is far in advance of the general election. The sooner the better.
But, this year, I don't think that is necessarily a good thing for us.
spanone
(135,830 posts)unblock
(52,208 posts)and in fact is a fair indication that that party will lose the general.
i'm fine with romney having comparatively little time to consolidate his position as his party's choice.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I guess my biggest fear is that no candidate has enough votes to claim the nomination outright. Then that opens up the possibility of a brokered convention and then anyone could be brought in.. eg.. Jeb Bush. We do not want that scenario.
unblock
(52,208 posts)if you're jeb, wouldn't you much prefer to take your chance in 2016?
DCBob
(24,689 posts)If you believe the GOPers they think they can win this easily with the economy still in tatters if they had a decent candidate.
yardwork
(61,599 posts)I don't want it to end soon. I mean, Gingrich is calling Romney out for being a corporate raider. As soon as Romney gets the nomination all that dissent will stop and the pr machine will go into swing.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)There are alot of angry conservatives out there and I dont see them falling in line for a flip-flopping Massachusettes liberal Republican.
yardwork
(61,599 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Recenlty he said no but he left the possibility open.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Any issues that fellow Republicans raise regarding Romney are automatically going to be taken more seriously by the liberal media than anything Democrats might cavil about.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Most are getting bored with it now. The worst of it is over and we need to move on to the next level... destroying the actual candidate.
unblock
(52,208 posts)there's much more self-destruct ahead for these clowns!
It will be entertaining regardless.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)good one.
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)We want those clowns bickering among themselves, digging up dirt and running negative ads against each other, spending money in pursuit of the nomination, and pandering to right-wing tea party lunatics, for as long as possible.
donco
(1,548 posts)gotta drain off some of that superpac dough.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Clearly that would help the situation.
chemp
(730 posts)Once they have a candidate, they will fling their poo in the President's direction. Let them get more of it on themselves first.
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)and Conquer is great politics.
Keeping hope alive for Gingrich Perry Santorum Paul and even Huntsman IMO will prevent "hearts from following" for individual Rs who embrace Romney. And continuing media scrutiny on Romney may pay off in HUGE scandals over such things as the marginal tax rate Romney is paying--see http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002166148 , for example.
surfdog
(624 posts)So they can do as much damage to mitt as possible
I want them to hand Obama a very damaged and defeated Romney
JI7
(89,248 posts)the problem is the Candidates themselves .
let them spend money fighting each other, making it tougher to come together after.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Its nauseating to hear their assine comments non-stop 7x24. Also at some point even if their comments are totally wrong some people begin to believe it if they hear it enough times. Its time to move on to real campaign.. mano a mano.
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)They cause a lot of the commotion for their damn ratings and profits you see.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)even if means nothing in the end.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)There is a difference between a close race between two people when the public sees both as potential Presidents (Clinton - Obama), and the current mess on the republican side. If Newt takes SC and Santorum finishes reasonably well, there is a potential for a three way race between parties that only a select minority see as viable. Even if SC boils down to a Romney win with Santorum and Gingrich nipping at his heels, this could extend for some time. Huntsman and Perry are probably done, and their support, while small, will move to other candidates, leaving the door open to an unsettled race.
There is now potential for the evangelicals to unite behind Santorum, and the paleoconservatives to follow Gingrich, with the remainder supporting Romney. Ron Paul will continue to pull his +/- 20%. THis could keep several of them in the race for some distance, with perhaps more than one or two extras making it to the convention. Having it sort out at the convention instead of at the hands of the voters could carry a great deal of dysfunction into the fall.
Where the potential pitfall lies for the R's is a convention with no clear winner delivered by the voters. If Romney stiches it up early their convention becomes a coronation, if he walks in short on delegates and needs to cut deals to get the nom, many parties get a slice of primetime at the podium and their convention becomes "idiots on parade" (more than ususal).
The 2008 race for the D side was long and heavily fought, but the voters delivered a clear winner to the convention. This could be the difference.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I think he is going to win SC decisively and that will be the end of it.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/01/private-poll-mitt-leads-jobsfocused-sc-primary-110872.html
DCBob
(24,689 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Has he pulled them out of a Cracker Jack box lately?
(I have no idea if they still make Cracker Jack.)
DCBob
(24,689 posts)sure they still make cracker jack. I think its a popular as ever.