Amnesty International has issued a travel warning to the United States.

[Initech]

Last edited Sat Jun 4, 2022, 08:31 PM - Edit history (1)

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We've reached shithole status. Thanks gun nuts, Fox News, the NRA, Donald Trump, Ron Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott...

[DURHAM D]

1. Is this for real? nt

[Initech]

3. 100%

https://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/government-relations/advocacy/travel-advisory-united-states-of-america/

[Make7]

5. Shouldn't this have been posted in Latest Breaking News?

Link to tweet

[Initech]

8. That's actually from 2 years ago.

Wouldn't exactly qualify as "breaking".

[Make7]

10. So is the link in post #3.

TRAVEL ADVISORY: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

August 7, 2019

The Amnesty International travel advisory for the country of the United States of America calls on people worldwide to exercise caution and have an emergency contingency plan when traveling throughout the USA. This Travel Advisory is being issued in light of ongoing high levels of gun violence in the country.



https://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/government-relations/advocacy/travel-advisory-united-states-of-america/

[pandr32]

2. Our reality.

Sad state of affairs, but we can change it. Let's get tough on weapons of war in the hands of ordinary people for starters.

[raccoon]

4. You got that right. Nt

[Elwood P Dowd]

6. They should also single out states with republican governors and legislatures.

Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, and many others now allow redneck Trumpers to take their assault weapons anywhere. No license, no background check, no protection from the cops. Too bad we can't pass a federal law and put up a billboard at the border - "Warning, you are entering the state of Texas. Proceed with caution. Take cover if you see armed Trumpers."

[bdamomma]

21. or you are

entering this state at your own risk.

Very sad state of affairs, due to a small minority of people. sickening

[lamp_shade]

7. August 2019 but even more relevant today.

[secondwind]

9. My daughter says they did this before...... in 2019

[brooklynite]

11. An Amnesty International meme makes nothing "official"

Personally, I feel perfectly safe going out in public.

[AZLD4Candidate]

19. Well, that's nice for you.

Please talk to all of those who have been victimized by gun violence here.

Just because you feel safe doesn't mean it is.

[dsc]

33. Being wealthy, straight, white, and male has all kinds of privileges

The fact is I generally feel safe but I do fear being out in some places. Trans people have every right to feel unsafe.

[brooklynite]

34. I spend plenty of time in neighborhoods that don't fit that definition.

And considering the number of tourists in NYC, I’d say they’re not worried either.

[Evolve Dammit]

12. We have only gotten worse. Much worse. Shithole status indeed. nt

[onecaliberal]

13. FFS

[Rhiannon12866]

14. Twitter replies:

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[betsuni]

22. That Guardian article says homicide rates rose in the '60s (when manufacturing jobs were still

plentiful) and the '70s, peaked in 1991, then fell by half between that year and 2015. Income inequality began in 1979 and increased. I don't get it. How does inequality predict homicide rates then?

Also, that homicide rates rose in 2016 and 2017 and the rise of Trump shows that inequality has a tangible effect on voter behavior. But Trump voters were better off financially than Clinton voters, so I don't get that either. They should at least say Trump voters' inequality was imaginary, based on the idea that white people have fewer opportunities than others.

[Stuart G]

15. Very Sad..

[Demobrat]

16. The gun humpers would consider this a badge of honor.

It means they’re bigger and badder than the scardy-cat furriners.

[StarryNite]

26. Sadly true.

And they hate people from other countries and don't want them here anyway.

[Aristus]

28. I wonder what Floridians would do if their shithole state

has its tourism industry crater as a result.

[The King of Prussia]

17. Speaking as a "scardy-cat furriner"

My wife and I had big plans to visit the USA. Not any more. Mostly for the gun thing.

[EX500rider]

18. Before Covid the US had 165 million tourists a year +- ..how many were killed in mass shootings?

Close to zero?

[sarcasmo]

20. Shit hole status for a shit hole country.

[SoonerPride]

23. What about those of us trapped here?

We need a refugee program to escape the shooting gallery.

[EX500rider]

24. Things more likely to kill you then mass shootings:

How many people die a year from mass shootings? 100-200?

Unintentional fall deaths in the US (per yr)
Number of deaths: 42,114

Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 40,698

Unintentional poisoning deaths
Number of deaths: 87,404

Mass shooting deaths are a very small fraction of those.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm

Amnesty Internationals warning is a little overblown, 58 countries have a worse homicide rate then the US, do they warn you against going to the Bahamas or Cost Rica or Bermuda?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

[StarryNite]

27. I think you forgot this one in your statistics...

Shootings are now the leading cause of death for children across the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control.



[link:https://www.wnem.com/2022/06/02/cdc-shootings-are-leading-cause-death-children-across-us/|

[EX500rider]

29. Sure if you stretch children to include 17yo gang members killing each other

Generally children are considered to below the age of puberty.
You can join the military at age 17.

[ancianita]

25. Bad PR for the U.S. AND Amnesty International. I'm disappointed; AI should be better than this.

And how quick we are to moan about what a shit hole country we are. We should be better than this. David Hogg, too.

It has never issued a “travel advisory” like this for any other country.

Even the director of security at Human Rights Watch, whose job is to assess security in high-risk environments, stated that Amnesty does not issue travel advisory notices.

Amnesty simply granted itself the power to make this proclamation so it could promote its gun violence campaign, and it allowed its name recognition and powerful brand to carry it into the spotlight. It has not provided an explanation for issuing the travel advisory, beyond retweeting the advisory itself.

The reward for this move? Positive and uncritical front-page media coverage, the most popular tweet in its recent history, skyrocketing search interest and a possible influx of donors to follow.

Amnesty is recognized by academics, policymakers, the media, the public and other international nongovernmental organizations as having a high standard of evidence by scrupulously shining a light into the darkness. But an announcement such as this — more gimmick than useful advice — has the potential to hurt the cause of human rights.

The “travel advisory” severely mischaracterizes important facts about the patterns of gun violence in the United States. As a result, it unnecessarily stokes fear and implies several incorrect recommendations that, if people followed them, would not make them safer.

[ejbr]

30. You're being unfair

They still think it's safe to lock yourself in your hotel room. If some sniper psycho doesn't take you out en route.

[karin_sj]

31. This is pathetic, sickening and depressing

And, unfortunately, true.

[LogicFirst]

32. A new one, or an old one?

“Aug 7, 2019 — Amnesty International today issued a travel warning calling for travelers and visitors to the United States to exercise extreme caution due to ...”