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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are people dragging Kate Middleton for Louis behavior during the jubilee?
What I saw was a normal just turned 4 year old being a kid. 4 year olds are not known for sitting quietly and behaving for any period of time but I have heard people saying his behavior shows he will grow into a horrible person. Kate dealt with the problem firmly but quietly, at least she didn't hand him a bag of crackers or her phone which is what many people consider to be parenting these days.
JustAnotherGen
(31,886 posts)I've seen what you are talking about though.
Most of those in my private twitter groups - black women - just know that if it were Meghan - she would be eviscerated by the salty island, the salty island press, and VP Harris haters in America.
I haven't seen either of my two groups post it in public twitter though . . .
Srkdqltr
(6,317 posts)He is acting appropriately for a 4 year old. Geezzz
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)mobeau69
(11,156 posts)2naSalit
(86,779 posts)Paternal grandfather or an uncle.
Quakerfriend
(5,452 posts)put their hand over my mouth!
I dont consider that normal behavior from a four year old.
imavoter
(646 posts)and another in private.
Likely knows she wouldn't discipline him publicly,
and he's not old enough yet to care what people think.
One thing too, people don't realize
is he's Harry in 30 years.
Once his brother and sister have heirs,
he'll be off the hook and won't be needed.
He's cute as hell, though.
Wingus Dingus
(8,059 posts)my boys wouldn't have dared. Baffled as to why anyone would accept that level of disrespect toward an adult or parent and call it "normal".
ripcord
(5,537 posts)They even had a statue cast of it of it
Lochloosa
(16,068 posts)phylny
(8,386 posts)with his Uncle Harry all year long.
Wingus Dingus
(8,059 posts)Sorry, it's just not. It was much more disrespectful than mere fidgeting, whining, chattering, ants-in-the-pants, etc. My boys when they were little were not angels, and not always respectful, but they never did shit like that to me.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)it would not have been pretty
Wingus Dingus
(8,059 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)no doubt she will one day be wondering how her teenager got so out of control
Sogo
(4,992 posts)I wonder if those who are dismissing it as typical 4-year-old behavior actually saw the clip of how he was disrespecting her. She was in a very awkward situation to actually discipline him strongly, but I was shocked at his behavior and personally would never have put up with it. She needed to take the little prince by the hand and firmly escort him to a more private place where she could lay down the law, preferably with William there, also.
His behavior was BEYOND brattishness!
Srkdqltr
(6,317 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)Louis is a little kid...his behavior was entirely normal and the best part of the jubilee if you ask me. I'm 57 years old and if you ask my husband and son...they will tell you I have a hard time sitting still. I try not to make faces, however.
ripcord
(5,537 posts)Talk about faces.
Budi
(15,325 posts)mcar
(42,373 posts)but he and a lot of his followers are the ones dragging little Louis (and his mother).
Criticize the parents all you want but this is a little kid.
Kaleva
(36,343 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,093 posts)Everyone is an expert in their own minds, and social media gives them a platform to disseminate their "expertise," whether the world wants to hear it, or not. That being said, the guest of honor seem to be enjoying watching the 4-year-old being a 4-year-old, and that's all that really matters here. I suspect that some of the critics are just bent out of shape that he was stealing attention away from her on her big day. Probably a bit of rod-up-the-assery involved.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)parents always saying how lazy younger parents are these days, giving the kids the phone, but that boomer parents would just tell kids to go outside and not come back til dark.
True! 😂 So, generational parenting criticism doesnt always go well.
I thought he made the whole boring event far more entertaining.
He wasn't spitting, throwing shit, yelling or doing any number of actually offensive things.
mcar
(42,373 posts)stating that the 4 year old should have been beaten for his behavior.
I get that people hate the monarchy, and that there are lots of feelings about how Meghan Markle was treated, but this is a 4 year old child who was being asked to sit still for a long stretch.
There are, BTW, a lot of other photos of him at that event where he is kissing his mother and sitting on his grandfather's lap.
People are focusing on a short stretch of misbehavior where his mother was pretty helpless to do anything with cameras running.
Me, I'd have brought a toy or book and let him play for some of it.
I do agree, though, with the argument that had this been Harry and Meghan's son Archie, the response would have been much more negative.
beaglelover
(3,489 posts)Prince Louis was just acting like any other 4 year old.
onenote
(42,759 posts)canetoad
(17,184 posts)Purveyors of chaos and discord.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)The Daily Fail
pinkstarburst
(1,327 posts)it should also be noted they're all attacking Kate, and no one has a thing to say about William, because everyone knows when a child is angelic, it's to the credit of both parents, but when a child is having a tantrum, blame the mother.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Wonder why they blame the parents...
ripcord
(5,537 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)to be able to verify that..
ripcord
(5,537 posts)Have any other juicy insider palace gossip to share?
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)I went with my parents everywhere as a child.
I was the youngest.
I was expected to behave myself.
My parents were Precinct Judges, they ran the elections.
I was there all day and it was a long day.
The kid is a brat raised by nannies.
I would never have touched my mother like that.
Or raised my voice.
Old school Mother.
Coventina
(27,172 posts)I don't necessarily blame Kate, but that kid looks like he's got a screw loose.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)That day was for the Queen.
He should have been removed and given to nanny.
That was disrespectful to the Queen.
.
Coventina
(27,172 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)the LOOK alone was enough to modify behavior
one of my brothers was eleven months older than me, and one is eleven months younger.....my first trip to England as a USAF brat, we were ages 2, 3, and 4......we were well-behaved for the entire flight.....my mum said she was so proud of all the compliments received from crew and other passengers
treestar
(82,383 posts)Which could be generational too. We always hear from older people about these kids today. Just another example.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)My mother had older kids in school already when I was born.
My mother had the look.
That was enough for me.
My mother did not give idle threats.
I only had two spankings.
I went everywhere my parents and knew how to behave.
kcr
(15,320 posts)But I can remember some epic tantrums my little sister threw in public. I can recall how mortified they were, so I'm sure those memories got buried.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)By four they need to start learning some control.
Pre school starts then.
BuddhaGirl
(3,609 posts)experience the level of stimulation and excitement over the course of a few days? I doubt your did
All this tut-tutting over Louis' behavior is hilarious! He's just a little kid, being a little kid
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)I went everywhere with my parents.
Meetings, conventions, parties.
My Father was really in Democratic politics.
I went to upscale dinners at Rice Hotel in Houston.
The difference lies with parents.
Some think it is cute , some don't.
My two grandchildren knew better.
Both their mother and I had the look.
The kid does this at home and gets away with it.
It was disrespectful to the Queen.
He should have been left at home.
A four he needs to learn to start controlling himself.
Surely he going to school soon.
Nobody likes a brat.
BuddhaGirl
(3,609 posts)Maybe you were *that* exceptional 4 yr old?
Louis seems like a normal kid, excited by all the ceremonial stuff, the music, etc. Maybe he's just irrepressible? Who knows. It's not worth criticism, imo.
And only the Queen herself can say if his behavior was disrespectful.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Four years old is preschool.
Old school Mothers were tough.
One look from my Mother was enough.
I was not the only child at these events either.
We were raised different back then.
I had a little school book bag I would take with coloring books and activity books.
I kept myself entertained.
It wasn't that hard.
BuddhaGirl
(3,609 posts)He's not in preschool when he's out appearing at functions with his parents. Your mother wasn't under the pressure of being constantly filmed and being "on" at events like Kate and William are, so apples to oranges.
Kate and William's kids look happy and healthy, relaxed and normal. Kate's doing just fine.
All this criticism from folks who think they know better is just silly. Relax!
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)They get away with what they can.
It is up the parents to set limits so the kids can learn control.
The kid will be going to pre school soon.
I bet he doesn't he show up at any other events until he is older.
My were parents under pressure.
We would be sitting at one major tables at the Rice Hotel.
One time we were sitting with Governor and the US Texas Senator.
I was about 8 years old.
I had better behave.
Parents were different back then.
They didn't try to be your friend.
BuddhaGirl
(3,609 posts)Oh well.
Louis got lucky in the parent parent department and has parents who interact with him
But there will always be a cranky-pants who thinks they know better!
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)She was a room mother and in PTA.
She was hands on.
I didn't have a nanny.
I had fun.
I got meet a lot famous people.
I met President Kennedy, LBJ, and Barbara Jordan.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Now things are more casual
kcr
(15,320 posts)Also, you didn't really argue my point. My parents are quite simply wrong in their estimation of their magical, heroic parenting abilities. I suspect that is the case most of the time.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)Ever since I saw that video of Kate and Camilla mocking and making fun of Meghan for holding her pregnant stomach I lost all respect. That's where all the stories on British tabloids criticizing Meghan for holding her stomach came from. I can't stand her.
JI7
(89,264 posts)brooklynite
(94,728 posts)I honestly haven't spent a minute following the Queen's anniversary, but neither have I seen a story or opinion piece relating to this.