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kentuck

(111,103 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 07:52 AM Jun 2022

The cult believes that Trump united the country.

That is why they find it so hard to believe that Biden won the election.

They saw the huge rallies. They saw the adoring audiences. They were part of the circus.
It looked like the entire country was supportive of the arrogant and loud-mouth autocrat. How could he lose to Joe Biden?

But he did. The cult could not believe that so many Americans disagreed with them. And Trump was able to persuade them that they were right. There was no way he could lose to Joe Biden. If he lost to Joe Biden, he would leave the country, he said.

That was how the Big Lie spread. They wanted to believe. They had no evidence, just what they saw at the circus.

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The cult believes that Trump united the country. (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2022 OP
Trump knew he was going to lose.... so he started the Big Lie.... secondwind Jun 2022 #1
He knew after Tulsa underpants Jun 2022 #3
+1 2naSalit Jun 2022 #28
DOJ allowed the Big Lie to spread gab13by13 Jun 2022 #2
He did unite mikeysnot Jun 2022 #4
Surprisingly... kentuck Jun 2022 #6
Yep, the flotsam are attracted like moths to a flame..... paleotn Jun 2022 #9
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #21
When you live in a cult bubble Diamond_Dog Jun 2022 #5
Exactly! Dread Pirate Roberts Jun 2022 #24
Apparently, they didn't see 7 million more people voted for Biden. sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #7
"They saw the huge rallies." Slammer Jun 2022 #8
United the Confederacy. Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #10
Same mindset... kentuck Jun 2022 #12
Unite the White Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #15
Trump, a NY Yankee, calls Sessions a 'dumb southerner' and they love him down there. keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #23
A true man of the people. Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #30
Good Schtuff keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #31
The same people think Obama DIVIDED the nation HAB911 Jun 2022 #11
They hated him because he was black and was chosen to lead this country. kentuck Jun 2022 #13
I think they hated Obama because he is everything leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #36
I know these people and I have to disagree on two points Cosmocat Jun 2022 #14
Well, they believe it because of the coverage on Faux News. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #16
And Senator Sanders had huge rallies to over the years...a rally is a snippet of the Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #17
Trump united the wingnuts, conspiracy theorists, the uninformed and ill-informed, Martin68 Jun 2022 #18
Trump was behind in every poll taken for a long, long time. world wide wally Jun 2022 #19
Plus in 2020, huge rallies in the middle of a deadly pandemic Freddie Jun 2022 #20
Trump rallies where you had to sign a waiver to not hold Trump accountable when you caught COVID. keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #25
Putin's Puppet... GB_RN Jun 2022 #22
United Hates of America Claire Oh Nette Jun 2022 #26
Reminds me of similar propaganda from two leaders during the 1930s. AZLD4Candidate Jun 2022 #27
K & R Stuart G Jun 2022 #29
Biden won because the normal people saw the danger of Trump. slater71 Jun 2022 #32
what they failed to comprehend Skittles Jun 2022 #33
He did unify the far right wackos. nt leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #34
He was just like them. kentuck Jun 2022 #35

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
2. DOJ allowed the Big Lie to spread
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 07:58 AM
Jun 2022

by not prosecuting the Cyber Ninjas who violated federal and state election laws.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)
4. He did unite
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 08:44 AM
Jun 2022
some Americans..

Losers
Bigots/racists
fascists
Religious fanatics*
Gun nuts
Grifters
Ignoramuses


You know…. Assholes







*this group is alarming because how could a guy that cheated on all his wives and lies all the time appeal to so called “christians”.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
9. Yep, the flotsam are attracted like moths to a flame.....
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jun 2022

He's their savior from cultural oblivion. In their minds, he made being a hateful, racist, Jebus nutter cool again. A political and cultural leader who's as much knuckle dragging throwback as they are.

Diamond_Dog

(32,006 posts)
5. When you live in a cult bubble
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 08:44 AM
Jun 2022

And speak only to the echo chamber … you have a distorted idea of the real world.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
24. Exactly!
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:54 AM
Jun 2022

They only watch "news" that they agree with. They only hang around with people they agree with. They generally live in rural areas where they don't understand the concept of population density-so if everyone around them thinks like they do they can't grasp that their entire town has less votes than a single voting district in a more populous area. The kind of people who look at a voting map and say "ooh, look at all the red" not understanding (and I won't even use a big city to demonstrate this) that a single county like Montgomery in MD or Bergen in NJ or Montgomery in PA have more people than entire states like WY, ND or SD. It's beyond their comprehension. (like so many other things)

Slammer

(714 posts)
8. "They saw the huge rallies."
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:31 AM
Jun 2022

In the 2016 election cycle, I talked til I was blue in the face trying to explain to people how that rallies work: all the people within driving distance of the event site can come.

"Driving distance", anywhere outside of Alaska and Hawaii, includes the population of several states.

So getting 20,000 to come see a TV celebrity, for free, out of a population of millions isn't a huge feat.

Additionally, the Trump campaign was notorious at the time for handing out several times more tickets than the event venue could actually seat. So many of the people who'd travelled hundreds of miles, with a ticket in hand, couldn't even get inside to watch the event.

That's a terrible way to treat your "supporters" and credible candidates who care about people don't do such things (i.e. everyone else who's ever run). But I guess celebrities can get away with treating people like dirt and be loved for it.

People showing up to see a TV personality doesn't mean that the TV personality is widely popular or wildly popular. I showed up to a grocery store one time to get my picture taken with a guy wearing a Chester Cheetah costume (the mascot for Cheetos).

But that doesn't mean that I'd vote for the guy...or even that I eat Cheetos.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
12. Same mindset...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:43 AM
Jun 2022

...that many, mostly Southerners, had 160 years ago. They were like a dangerous cult also.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
15. Unite the White
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:58 AM
Jun 2022

The old time tribal religion that holds one race (nation) superior and the others inferior.

What a different world this would be were we to appreciate one another for what we can discover from the Other.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
23. Trump, a NY Yankee, calls Sessions a 'dumb southerner' and they love him down there.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:53 AM
Jun 2022

Trump, a NY Yankee, calls Sessions a 'dumb southerner' and they love him down there.

After all, Trump 'tells it like it is'.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
13. They hated him because he was black and was chosen to lead this country.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:45 AM
Jun 2022

But it was not Obama that "divided" the nation, it was their own hatred and racism. It was not a defensible reason.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
36. I think they hated Obama because he is everything
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 07:44 AM
Jun 2022

that they aren't. I think they may hate his intellectualism and just the sincerity and just plain classiness that he exudes. And he's biracial.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
14. I know these people and I have to disagree on two points
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

To these people ...

1) He DID unite the country. The country being white, non liberal people. He did that very well. They don't care, in fact they have absolute hatred, for POC and those of us who are traitors to the race - and in their minds we don't count relative who deserves to be here. What we think does not count to them at all.

2) They know Biden won. Either completely or deep down inside. They know they game that is being played, that they are part of a slow moving chrisofacist authoritarian coup of the United States of America. The "big lie" is part of the game they know the have to play to win the game.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
16. Well, they believe it because of the coverage on Faux News.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:59 AM
Jun 2022

And because it's what their shriveled up brains want to believe.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
17. And Senator Sanders had huge rallies to over the years...a rally is a snippet of the
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:13 AM
Jun 2022

millions who will eventually vote...and honestly kind of meaningless.

Martin68

(22,822 posts)
18. Trump united the wingnuts, conspiracy theorists, the uninformed and ill-informed,
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:22 AM
Jun 2022

and conservatives without marketable or employable skills who can't understand that their party's policies are the reason they are unemployed and uninsured.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
20. Plus in 2020, huge rallies in the middle of a deadly pandemic
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:46 AM
Jun 2022

Our side was smart enough to not do that. Biden didn’t even have rallies for that reason.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
25. Trump rallies where you had to sign a waiver to not hold Trump accountable when you caught COVID.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jun 2022

Trump rallies where you had to sign a waiver to not hold Trump accountable when you caught COVID.

GB_RN

(2,356 posts)
22. Putin's Puppet...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:52 AM
Jun 2022

Tore the country apart in ways not seen since the years prior to the Civil War.


The Reich Wing accused Obama of being divisive, etc., but that was tRump. And he did it deliberately.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
26. United Hates of America
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:57 AM
Jun 2022
They saw the huge rallies. They saw the adoring audiences. They were part of the circus.
It looked like the entire country was supportive of the arrogant and loud-mouth autocrat.


He united the uneducated, mouth breathing, non political sports fans into an electorate block easily manipulated and duped.

We don't elect anyone by rally.
Rallies are not even mentioned in COnstitution they never read. Limbaugh infected sports radio, and turned politics into bloodsport.
They were semi literate, proudly ignorant (m)asses united in hatred of non-male, non-white, educated, literate, non-Pauline CHristains.

slater71

(1,153 posts)
32. Biden won because the normal people saw the danger of Trump.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 02:05 PM
Jun 2022

I hope we can do it again to Trump or De Santis if he runs because he is more dangerous than Trump.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
33. what they failed to comprehend
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 06:25 AM
Jun 2022

was how many people would have voted for a freaking ham sandwich if they had run it against Donald Fucking Trump.

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