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I think TFG might have to plead insanity to get out of this. n/t (Original Post) Raven Jun 2022 OP
What cilla4progress Jun 2022 #1
If he thinks an insanity defense would help him Best_man23 Jun 2022 #3
The insanity defense rarely works. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #2
I agree with this assessment. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #4
Even if he could, he won't relayerbob Jun 2022 #5
When the end of the road comes nearer I can see him asserting an insanity defense and in2herbs Jun 2022 #6
None of it will play out like that relayerbob Jun 2022 #10
That would, thankfully, never work Takket Jun 2022 #7
Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a mental condition. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #8
I think he knows cognitively what's wrong, but believes he's above the law. lindysalsagal Jun 2022 #12
That's what I have been thinking CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #9
He'd probably still get 70 million votes, the morons. lindysalsagal Jun 2022 #11
OK - he's insane. I can accept that ... FakeNoose Jun 2022 #13

Best_man23

(4,950 posts)
3. If he thinks an insanity defense would help him
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jun 2022

He's getting bad advice, because conditions in many hospitals used to house the criminally insane are worse than an actual prison.

His better option would be to face the music and hope his trial is assigned to one of his sympathetic "judges".

Ocelot II

(117,442 posts)
2. The insanity defense rarely works.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jun 2022

You have to be either unable to control your behavior (you didn't know what you were doing), or you don't realize your act was wrong or unlawful. TFG knew damn well what he was doing, and he didn't care whether it was wrong or illegal. TFG is mentally messed up - he's a psychopath and a narcissist - but he's not psychotic.

Irish_Dem

(52,540 posts)
4. I agree with this assessment.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jun 2022

He is a ruthless psychopath, paranoid and narcissist.

But not floridly psychotic to the point of NGRI.

in2herbs

(2,988 posts)
6. When the end of the road comes nearer I can see him asserting an insanity defense and
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:36 PM
Jun 2022

then negotiating to spend the rest of his life at Mar-a-Lardo. His SS detail and presidential pension won't be stripped from him. All he'd need is a full time nursing staff. And, when climate change damages/destroys his Mar-a-Lardo he'll get gov't money for repairs. Even if he is ordered to have no phone or internet access and never to leave Mar-a-Lardo and is stripped of his Trump investments he will live a comfortable life having done what he does best --- screw everyone who has ever worked for him.

maxsolomon

(33,838 posts)
8. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a mental condition.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:47 PM
Jun 2022

He actually could try to make a case based on that diagnosis.

Does it mean he's "Mentally Ill" or "Insane"? Doubtful. He still knows right from wrong.

lindysalsagal

(21,104 posts)
12. I think he knows cognitively what's wrong, but believes he's above the law.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:24 PM
Jun 2022

He thinks morals are for sissies. That's why the church bible thumpers adore him.

FakeNoose

(33,933 posts)
13. OK - he's insane. I can accept that ...
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:30 PM
Jun 2022

Are his loyal followers insane too? All the ChumpHumpers in Congress? The idiots who participated the Insurrection/Big Lie? Because they ALL KNEW they were doing the bidding of an insane person, and they all did it anyway.

We'll need to lock up almost 70 million people. How do we do that?

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