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Cyrano

(15,063 posts)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:09 AM Jun 2022

Supreme Court just fucked New York

They've gutted New York's gun laws.

New York City has always been a place where it's almost impossible to buy a gun unless you can demonstrate an important need.

And the idea of New York being "a dangerous place" has always been bullshit. Given the population, there are probably fewer deaths per person in NY than there are in Wyoming (which has a population of a few dozen people).

The majority of the Supreme Court has blood on their hands and will have until the day they die. Fuck them. I mean, FUCK THEM.

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Supreme Court just fucked New York (Original Post) Cyrano Jun 2022 OP
They sure did, Expand the court Beachnutt Jun 2022 #1
They fucked America. spanone Jun 2022 #2
+100000 bdamomma Jun 2022 #8
It's more than NY or carry permits, they set the table for challenging everything Amishman Jun 2022 #3
How about if everyone gets to carry a rocket launcher? Cyrano Jun 2022 #4
Can you imagine if criminals were running around with RPG's TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #6
Or the donut shop. roamer65 Jun 2022 #13
The 1934 National Firearms Act says no. nt hack89 Jun 2022 #14
I bet you will be proven 100% correct TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #5
The Supreme Court bdamomma Jun 2022 #7
That's simply not true Zeitghost Jun 2022 #9
I specifically stated New York City Cyrano Jun 2022 #10
You very specifically used the word "buy" Zeitghost Jun 2022 #11
True, I only know one guy with one (not counting cops), despite living here all my life Polybius Jun 2022 #15
Not yet, this decision could back fire. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #12
I work for the NYS Assembly Danmel Jun 2022 #16

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
3. It's more than NY or carry permits, they set the table for challenging everything
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:18 AM
Jun 2022

Still going off summaries but it appears that they set a much stricter standard for what it allowed on 2nd amendment challenges.

I thought it was strict scrutiny at first (requiring laws to be written as narrowly as possible) but it's not that after reading Breyer's dissent.

It might be worse.

Thomas is requiring that historical context be considered for if a gun law is constitutional. This is new and without comparison. It also sets the table for demolishing just about everything, as the first piece of federal gun restrictions was in the 1930's. So no law will pass this originalist test of constitutionalism.

Cyrano

(15,063 posts)
4. How about if everyone gets to carry a rocket launcher?
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:39 AM
Jun 2022

After all, a rocket launcher is just "a big gun." Ain't it?

And if rocket launchers are big guns, can that definition be stretched to virtually everything in the current arsenal of weapons? I don't know.

But I do know than the majority of Supreme Court justices are, at a minimum, wrong. And at a maximum, they're mentally fucked up beyond repair. And they're doing their best to destroy a sane civilization.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
6. Can you imagine if criminals were running around with RPG's
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jun 2022

Cops wouldn't want to leave the cop shop.

Zeitghost

(3,871 posts)
9. That's simply not true
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jun 2022

There is no need to demonstrate an important need to purchase a firearm in NY State.

This case was about concealed carry, not purchases.

Cyrano

(15,063 posts)
10. I specifically stated New York City
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jun 2022

NY state laws are looser. There was no way to get a carry permit in the city unless your profession, or some special circumstance required it.

I never worried about getting shot in NYC. Florida, where I now live, is a far different story.

Zeitghost

(3,871 posts)
11. You very specifically used the word "buy"
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jun 2022

As I noted, there is no requirement for anyone in NY State, including residents of NYC to demonstrate a specific need to purchase a firearm.

Polybius

(15,497 posts)
15. True, I only know one guy with one (not counting cops), despite living here all my life
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:07 PM
Jun 2022

He's the owner of like 10 restaurants and multiple real estate. Guy is worth like $80 million.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
12. Not yet, this decision could back fire.
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:31 PM
Jun 2022

I live in NY, the governor is going to fight this decision. She has lots of ways to fight back. Their decision has loopholes you can drive a truck through.

She can make it tougher to get a permit in many ways that does not violate the courts decision. She can it make more expensive is just one example.

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