****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 5, thread ONE (3:00 pm EDT) ****

[BumRushDaShow]

Hi everyone and I am pleased to host the "live thread" on behalf of Scrivener7 once more as we now move into the meat of the machinations behind the insurrection and what might prove to be the most consequential outing to date.

So get your favorite nosh , sit back, and enjoy! Like the previous 4 broadcast segments, this hearing is expected to last about 2 hours.

CSPAN3, for those who have access to that cable channel, will be broadcasting it on TV starting at 2:45 pm EDT.

For those without a TV and/or who are unable to watch (at work or home or if traveling, etc), here are a few of what are many streams that can be used to view/listen to today's session (the major broadcast - ABC, NBC, CBS, and cable networks CNN, MSNBC, etc., and print - WaPo, WSJ, etc., usually stream these as well) -

[Marthe48]

1. Thank you for the thread and the links!

I really appreciate your effort and Scrivner's too

[FalloutShelter]

2. Thanks BRDS

[Hekate]

3. Already had the pleasure of hearing Frank Figliuzzi patiently schooling Andrea Mitchell...

… that the Committee presentation of partial film footage is very akin to a Grand Jury presentation and therefore all on the up and up.

[Emile]

4. Popcorn popped and ready to go!

[Hekate]

5. I brought lots of popcorn to share. Anybody remember the butter?

[electric_blue68]

26. I got unsalted, salted AND... butter with garlic powder! 😁

[Probatim]

115. Butter, salt, and Tabasco

More butter than a Wisconsin dairy farm...

[Evolve Dammit]

6. Thank you thank you for the links!

[Novara]

7. I will start watching at work but I have to drive home during the hearing so I'll probably miss ...

... something. Hopefully not too much.

I haven't wanted to miss a minute of these hearings, and this one is going to be a WOWSER.

I just bought a new car and took delivery of it today and I am impatient to play with it and get my phone all connected etc., but I'll have to postpone it until later. Democracy is more important!

[BumRushDaShow]

12. If you have access to NPR (on a public radio station)

they might be airing it on the radio (they used to do that with hearings like this).

[Novara]

14. Thanks, I think you're right

I've got it on my phone, will switch over in the car, then switch back over to my phone until I can get my TV on at home.

I don't want to miss a minute!

[question everything]

8. Did it just now start? (I was busy)

[BumRushDaShow]

10. CSPAN3 started showing the room (breaking away from pre-recorded programming)

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Thanks all and I'm here

(had to post the LBN for the CDC ACIP recommendation vote for the Moderna vaccine for children/adolescents (6 years - 17 years) that just happened about 10 minutes ago.

[Ohio Joe]

11. I'm here

[BumRushDaShow]

13. A panel of witnesses have arrived and are seated

[livetohike]

15. I'm in. Let's go. N/t

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Committee members are now entering

[electric_blue68]

17. Thanks, BRTS!

[Lars39]

18. It's begun

[BumRushDaShow]

19. Chair Thompson is now giving his opening statement by recapping the previous session

[crickets]

20. Thanks BRDS!

I am watching and posting by phone so won't be able to say much, but really appreciate being able to watch with DU.

[livetohike]

21. Chairman Thompson: Trump replaced Rosen with someone who he had hoped would overturn the election

[nature-lover]

22. Great recap last time on MSNBC. Chris Hayes time slot - 7:00 pm Central. My 5 favorite commentators

[BumRushDaShow]

23. Liz Cheney now giving her opening statement

[livetohike]

24. Liz Cheney recapping what we have learned so far

[spooky3]

39. Doing her usual very effective reading, as did

Thompson, and as Kinzinger is doing now.

[Aroundabout23]

25. I like the direction today

showing that they tried to convince the general public through propaganda.

[livetohike]

27. Liz Cheney our focus will be on a letter that our witnesses today refused to sign

[BumRushDaShow]

28. Note for the thread - Clark's home was searched yesterday

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142933712

[superpatriotman]

29. Quid Pro Quo

Send this letter and I’ll make you Attorney General

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Adam Kinzinger giving his opening (and he will lead this session)

[Delphinus]

31. Pardons!

They are going to say WHO!!

[Ohio Joe]

32. Names of three in congress who wanted pardons...

Cheney says they will be named... That will be interesting

[livetohike]

34. Can't wait!

[PA_jen]

42. Wonder how many?

Did she mean just members of the house or both Reps and Senators?

[livetohike]

33. At the end of today we are going to hear the names of the congress persons who sought a pardon

[crickets]

35. Cheney says there will be a list

of Reps who asked for pardons presented at the end of today's hearing.

eta Typing on phone so slow...

Good to hear from Kinzinger.

[PA_jen]

45. When do we find out about the Senators? Remember

both House and Senate members had been involved in the Green Bay sweep.

[electric_blue68]

36. I like that Chairman Thompson brought the "turn over the legitimate vote" effort down to a local...

level example like a legitimately elected Mayor.

[nolabear]

37. I'll be driving so can't comment further, but I'll listen. GET 'EM!

[BumRushDaShow]

38. Playing clips of previous AGs

Sessions, Holder, Lynch, Mukasey (I think)

[livetohike]

40. Cippilone Called the letter a murder suicide pact and said

That he never wanted to see that letter again.

[gademocrat7]

41. Committee presenting compelling evidence

that tfdg and his minions were engaging in criminal activities.

[crickets]

43. Jeff Clark sounds like the toadiest of toadies. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

44. Kinzinger has concluded and Thompson is introducing the witnesses

[BumRushDaShow]

46. Witnesses being sworn in

[BumRushDaShow]

47. Rosen answering questions about how often he was meeting with 45

Answer - pretty much daily

[livetohike]

48. Rosen questioned first. The common element whenTrump contacted him was

that the DOJ wasn’t doing enough ti investigate election fraud.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. Rosen - rec'd many requests to initiate memos to states and to have investigations of fraud

and all of those requests were "denied" as unnecessary and inappropriate.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. Donaghue questioned

[catbyte]

51. OMG, Antrim County.

Michissippi at its finest.

[Novara]

55. My state ashames me every fucking day

[Mersky]

81. A few minutes later in Donoghue's testimony, he detailed the problems with the Antrim Co report

Antrim County, MI report from the Allied Sec. Group - their 68% error rate claim was bogus

According to Donoghue, of the 15,000 ballots counted by machine only one ballot was counted incorrectly after a hand recount for a 0.0063% error rate.
___
Creative moving of decimal with a 3 up to 8 tweak at the end. The orders of magnitude in difference are cray cray. tRump was told not to trust such reports.

Michissippi

[livetohike]

52. Kinzinger: the DOJ was receiving nearly daily calls from

Trump for not doing enough to investigate election fraud.

[Novara]

53. Fucking DAILY demands

These people had to put up with this asshole harassing them ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

54. Barr-without investigation into fraud claims, there may have been no transition

Link to tweet

[Lars39]

56. Video...Gohmert, Biggs, Gosar, Gaetz, Jordan, Mo Brooks

[BumRushDaShow]

57. Kinzer introducing clips including a Faux Snooze interview

and a Loopy Gohmert and Andy Biggs remarks. Plus clips from Turning Point's conference and of Gymsuit...

[electric_blue68]

63. Oh, lookie, it's The Parade of Provaricators!

👎👎👎👎👎

[Novara]

58. ... going after the traitor caucus in congress ...

... and I am so fucking HERE FOR IT.

[livetohike]

59. I think we just saw clips of the pathetic Congress members

who sought pardons: Gaetz,Jordan, Mo Brooks

[ancianita]

94. Deez nutz

amplified tfg's claim re the DOJ, and so went public to say that after the DOJ hasn't done its job, the people would have to.

Clips of

Gohmert TX — "Do your job"
Biggs AZ
Gosar AZ
Gaetz FL
Jordan OH — "Jan 6 IS the day to force Congress to change the outcome"

[Midnight Writer]

120. And Jordan gets The Presidential Medal Of Freedom. A sickening perversion of values.

[wnylib]

123. Wonder if there is any provision for revoking it.

[crickets]

60. Showing Fox News' role in amplifying the Big Lie,

along with Louie Gohmert, Biggs, Gozar Gaetz, Jordan, etc .. Nauseating liars all.

[IcyPeas]

61. ugh matt gaetz, gym jordan, maria bartiromo, mo brooks

what a cabal of doofuses

[BumRushDaShow]

62. Donaghue - "He had an arsenal of allegations"

"Someone whispering in his ear". Had to "correct him in a serial manner".

[livetohike]

64. Kinzinger: Did you find any of these fraud allegations

credible? “No”

[spooky3]

74. devastating nt

[crickets]

65. DOJ spent *hours* in meetings

refuting the false reports & lies. Over and over. tfg KNEW all of it was lies. He just didn't care.

[BumRushDaShow]

66. Donoghue: "President made an allegation that I hadn't heard"

Allegation that "more than 200,000 votes were certified in PA that were not cast."

[livetohike]

67. Showing Donoghue's handwritten notes he took

after a phone call from Trump.

[BumRushDaShow]

68. Donaghue: "We're not quality control for the states"

re: election issues.

[livetohike]

69. Trump asked Donoghue to "just say the election was corrupt

and leave the rest to me and Republican Congressmen”.

[crickets]

73. This is the most chilling of all.

"Just say the election was corrupt." Thank goodness DOJ held firm.

[BumRushDaShow]

70. Donaghue told: "Just say the election was corrupt and leave it to me and (the (R) Congressman"

[spooky3]

71. Donoghue is a good witness. I didn't know about

The DOJ’s role as he described it.

[BumRushDaShow]

72. Christmas Eve call to Rosen: "election was corrrupt and had been stolen"

[BumRushDaShow]

75. Rosen: "wondering how 45 even knew Clark - he had no role related to elections"

Playing a clip with the loon MTG.

[sinkingfeeling]

76. Another member of the Crazy-ass Caucus, MTG, speaks.

[BumRushDaShow]

77. Played clip of Turning Point and now Scott Perry has come up

where Perry introduced Clark.

[Lars39]

78. Sigh...I've worked hard not to hear some of these voices

[crickets]

85. Same. Oof. nt

[livetohike]

79. Scott Perry on a visit to the White House brought Clark

to the White House.

[BumRushDaShow]

80. Clip of Ghoul's interview

re: Clark...

[demtenjeep]

82. Marjiq wasn't even sworn in yet

Jesus

[crickets]

83. Seems Rick Perry was the one

who brought Clark over to meet tfg. Rudy is having trouble keeping it together during his testimony about this Yikes

[Mersky]

113. That was Rep. Scott Perry

Lol, oddly wasn’t Rick, though he does have a knack for getting into weird situations.

[BumRushDaShow]

84. "General Perry"

[livetohike]

88. He meant Admiral Perry

🤣

[wnylib]

124. Admiral Oliver Hazard Perry?

Wouldn't he be a bit haggard looking after 2 centuries?

[BumRushDaShow]

86. Rosen described their protocol of who could speak with the President

Engel echoing the policy.

[livetohike]

87. Showing texts between Perry and Meadows.

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Showing texts between Perry and Meadows on December 26, 2020

Perry then sending some file using "Signal" to Meadows...

[livetohike]

90. Perry said that the PA Sec of State certified more votes

than were cast.

[BumRushDaShow]

91. Donaghue describing how Perry was bullshitting and lying to him

and attacking the PA SOS.

[sl8]

92. Rep. Scott Perry (R - PA) had refused to cooperate with the committee, but did ask for a pardon (*)

* He denies asking for a pardon:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rep-scott-perry-denies-jan-6-committee-accusation-that-he-sought-a-trump-pardon/

[BumRushDaShow]

93. Kinzinger has yielded to Cheney for questions re: GA

[ancianita]

96. Earlier, Rosen said

DOJ is not quality control for state elections;
it’s only up to states and congress to correct, not the DOJ;
The People are not the client of the DOJ;
the only client of the DOJ is the US govt, and the govt did not have standing.

After trump's nov 29 video telling the DOJ to do its job, the DOJ responded to trump,
trump answered by telling the DOJ that they should "just say the election was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and congressmen.”

[BumRushDaShow]

95. Donaghue sent email to Clark to tell him DOJ can't get involved in this election

and then later met with him in what became a contentious meeting.

[livetohike]

97. Donoghue describing how Clark was conducting meetings

and investigations of his own.

[BumRushDaShow]

98. Donaghue: Clark was calling witnesses and conducting his own investigation

[BumRushDaShow]

99. Ken Kluklaski, WH lawyer working with Eastman

[ancianita]

103. Who also worked under Clarke starting Dec 15.

[crickets]

100. I do not understand how Clark wasn't fired by this point. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

107. It would normally have been Barr doing that

but I think Barr had left by then. There was nothing but mostly Actings left.

[crickets]

111. What a coward Barr was to leave.

Too bad he didn't have the spine to stay, to stand up to tfg, and to do his damned job.

[BumRushDaShow]

101. OMG Ken Blackwell was brought in to help the conspiracy

[livetohike]

105. Unreal. Or is it?

[sinkingfeeling]

106. The man who 'stole' the election in Ohio in 2004?

[livetohike]

102. Showing Clark's deposition where he was asked the same

questions as today’s witnesses.

[BumRushDaShow]

104. ****10 MINUTE RECESS****

[malaise]

108. Rats are scattering as I type

They are going down

[spooky3]

109. We can only hope!

[livetohike]

112. Lock them all up. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

110. ****MOVING TO THREAD TWO*****

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216833895

[Beringia]

114. I still don't understand how Trump found Jeffrey Clark to do his bidding

How did people know Jeffrey Clark was their man?

[Marthe48]

116. I imagine clark promoted himself

to make sure he was noticed by the criminals

[BumRushDaShow]

119. Scott Perry (PA-10) introduced them to Clark and pushed him into the Administration

[wryter2000]

117. Clark is an effing moron. n/t

[Picaro]

118. What a clown show!

Watching this and it is stunning. I’ve been reading about this and it didn’t really hit me how insane this all was.

This joker had the nuclear codes. He was Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces.

We’re lucky we finally got him out of office.

[Marthe48]

121. We'll be luckier when he's put away

for good

[Picaro]

122. Absolutely agree