David Plouffe has the right idea! End the circular firing squad and concentrate on this!
“The messaging needs to be clear, consistent and true. “Congress can override what the Supreme Court did and pass a law to legalize abortion. To do that, we need to elect 2 more Democratic Senators and to hold the House. Pres Biden will sign a law codifying Roe if that happens.””
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JFC, I'm so sick of the stupid. 
I had re-posted an earlier post here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16846415
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I remember back in 2010, there were at least 12 of them who along with Bart Stupak (remember him?) refused to vote for the ACA unless abortion access had some kind of restriction, which initially meant that the "Hyde Amendment" wasn't enough. There were actually 64 Democrats who voted for Stupak's "Amendment".
Rep. Stupak says he won't vote for bill if it contains Senate abortion language.
By HUMA KHAN
March 4, 2010, 6:40 AM
WASHINGTON, March 4, 2010— -- Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., today said he and 11 other House members will not vote for the health care bill unless it includes more stringent language to prevent federal funding from going toward abortion services. "We're not going to vote for this bill with that kind of language," Stupak told "Good Morning America's" George Stephanopoulos today, referring to the Senate health care bill, which includes less restrictive language than what the Democratic lawmaker proposed in the House.
Stupak said he is willing to take the criticism that will be hurled at him if he blocks the bill because of the abortion language, but that he won't back down on his principles. "I want to see health care pass. I agree... people are being priced out of the market. We must have health care but, boy, there are some principles and beliefs that some of us are not going to pass," he said. "We're prepared to take the responsibility. I mean, I've been catching it ever since last fall. Let's face it, I want to see health care. But we're not going to bypass some principles and beliefs that we feel strongly about."
The ongoing abortion debate threatens to stall the health care bill and reflects the deep divide among Democrats. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs today said the president would like to see the House pass the health care bill before he departs for his international trip on March 18, but that does include passing the "fixes" that the White House has proposed.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., today said that the bill makes no changes to the existing law on abortion.
"There is no change in the access to abortion, no more no less. It is abortion neutral," Pelosi told reporters. "If you believe that there should be no federal funding for abortion, and if you believe that there should be no change in policy... we will pass the bill." Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius told Stephanopoulos on "GMA" that the bill is not about abortion, but about changing the health care system to ease the burden on families and small businesses facing skyrocketing insurance premiums.
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/HealthCare/abortion-issue-derail-obama-democrats-health-care-efforts/story?id=10006591
By Chris Good
March 23, 2011
Former congressman Bart Stupak was the lynchpin of health reform's passage, and he paid a price for it in the end.
The pro-life, Michigan Democrat led a small but powerful bloc of Democratic lawmakers to oppose the bill because of its language on federal funding of abortions. Seemingly at the last minute, Stupak and the White House hammered out a compromise, his pro-life allies supported the bill, and it passed by a thin margin.
After that, Stupak received a death threat. Facing outside spending in his district and a vitriolic political climate, he decided not to run for reelection. Now, he's a visiting fellow at Harvard's Institute of Politics.
On health care reform's first birthday, Stupak told The Atlantic about getting "bitch[ed] out" by angry citizens in airports, how he and President Obama reached the deal that secured the bill's passage, and that Rahm Emanuel knows better than to get in his face.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/03/bart-stupak-a-year-after-health-care-getting-bitched-out-in-airports-how-the-deal-went-down-and-more/72938/
Per this, there were 6 others with him at the time of his announcement of finally agreeing to it (of that group, there is still one still in Congress - Marcy Kaptur) - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stupak-to-vote-yes-on-health-care-bill/
After he left congress, he was a huge supporter of Hobby Lobby (and their case).
There are still some in there and I hate to say. Below were some remaining post-ACA after trying to torpedo the ACA to forbid abortion services (bolded are still sitting members of Congress) -
Jim Cooper TN-05
Dan Lipinski IL-03
Stephen Lynch MA-08
Sanford Bishop GA-02
Jim Costa CA-16
Henry Cuellar TX-28
Jim Langevin RI-02
Tim Ryan OH-13
Richard Neal MA-01
Marcy Kaptur OH-09
Mike Doyle PA-14
(we know Tim Ryan just won the primary to run for Senate in OH)
And the one about to get a laser focus includes my own Senator, whose father was the defendant (as Governor) in Planned Parenthood v. Casey.
Granted, Bob Casey, Jr. is definitely NOT his father and has been much more moderate on the issue. But I know some of the local (and probably national) media have started to bubble about it...
He was one of two Dems who didn’t join 48 other senators in co-sponsoring the Women’s Health Protection Act.
Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., speaks during a news conference on Capitol Hill in December 2021 Carolyn Kaster / AP Photo
Lizzy McLellan Ravitch
May. 03, 2022, 1:15 p.m.
Bob Casey is an outlier among his Democratic colleagues in the U.S. Senate. As a pro-life Democrat, he wants to limit the number of abortions that take place in the U.S. — but he also doesn’t approve of Republicans’ recent attempts to weaponize the issue. A draft of a U.S. Supreme Court decision leaked Monday night, indicating a likelihood that the justices will vote to overturn Roe v. Wade. Casey responded to the leaked opinion in a statement Tuesday afternoon.
“If this draft opinion becomes the final opinion of the Court, I have serious concerns about what overturning almost 50 years of legal precedent will mean for women in states passing near or total bans on abortion,” Casey said. “Congress should be working to reduce the number of abortions and unintended pregnancies and doing much more to support women and families.”
After the SCOTUS draft leaked, pro-choice advocates renewed calls for federal lawmakers to pass a law that would preserve abortion rights. The U.S. House of Representatives passed the Women’s Health Protection Act last fall. The Senate then voted in late February, but the act failed to get majority support.
Just two of the 50 sitting Democratic senators held back from co-sponsoring the bill. One was West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, who ultimately joined Republicans (as he has on other issues) and voted against moving the act forward. The other holdout who declined to sponsor the bill was Casey, who has throughout his political career described himself as a pro-life Democrat. His father, former Pa. Gov. Bob Casey Sr., was famously pro-life.
https://billypenn.com/2022/05/03/bob-casey-abortion-senate-pro-life-democrat-scotus/
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As a note, Sen. Bob Casey, Jr., whose father (as former PA Governor) had the case that is cited along with Roe v. Wade (Planned Parenthood v. Casey), has come out in support of abortion rights.
I'll look up their abortion positions. 
when Stupak's amendment was first drafted and about the whole debate about abortion and the ACA - e.g.,
https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/01/26/381472527/abortion-vote-shows-how-much-democrats-world-has-changed
https://degette.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/the-reality-of-the-stupak-pitts-amendment
March 21, 2018 5:00 AM ET
On March 21, 2010, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), alongside fellow anti-abortion Democrats, holds up a copy of an executive order from President Barack Obama guaranteeing no federal funding for abortion.
Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
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So, what happened with the ACA and abortion funding?
Republicans in both the House and Senate unanimously refused to support the Affordable Care Act when it passed Congress in 2010. In order to pass the bill over GOP objections, Democrats needed near unanimity among their ranks, abortion remaining the biggest hurdle. The Democratic caucus at the time had a significant number of members who opposed abortion, particularly those representing more conservative districts and states. In order to facilitate movement, House and Senate leaders agreed that the health bill should be "abortion-neutral," meaning it would neither add to nor subtract from existing abortion restrictions.
Even today there is disagreement about whether the law actually expands or contracts abortion rights. At the time, Democratic sponsors of the bill were buffeted by appeals from women's groups who wanted to make sure the bill did not change existing coverage of abortion in private health insurance; and from abortion opponents, led by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, who called the bill a major expansion of abortion rights.
The bill passed the House in 2009 only after inclusion of an amendment by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), a longtime opponent of abortion. That bill included a government-sponsored health insurance plan that would have been available on all states' exchanges. Stupak's provision would have made the Hyde Amendment a permanent part of that plan. The amendment also banned federal premium subsidies for private health insurance plans that offered abortion, although it allowed for plan customers to purchase a rider with non-federal money to cover abortion services.
Eventually, the Senate bill dropped the government-sponsored plan, so no restrictions were necessary on the abortion issue. And it was the Senate plan that went forward to become law. Still, differences remained over how to ensure that subsidies provided by taxpayers did not go to private plans that covered abortions.
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/03/21/595191785/clash-over-abortion-hobbles-a-health-bill-again-here-s-how
Unfortunately, On The Issues isn't kept up to date, but here are there stances over the last ten years or so.
Jim Cooper TN-05 pro-life, 30% by NARAL
Stephen Lynch MA-08 pro-life 10% by NARAL
Sanford Bishop GA-02 pro-life 30% by NARAL
Jim Costa CA-16 Endorsed by NARAL
Henry Cuellar TX-28 Rated 80% by the NRLC
Jim Langevin RI-02 pro-life 10% by NARAL
Tim Ryan OH-13 Opposed abortion; now supports woman's choice. (Apr 2019) 10% by NARAL
Richard Neal MA-01 pro-life 30% by NARAL
Marcy Kaptur OH-09 pro-life 30% by NARAL
Mike Doyle PA-1 pro-life 40% by NARAL
Also - as stated by BumRush - our other Dem Senator Bob Casey has changed his stance on abortion rights. He is a Catholic and he is against abortion as a personal matter. However he will support Women's Reproductive Rights in the future - he has become a Pro-Choice Senator after all.
Thank you Senator Bob Casey!
There will always be pols for sale. As voters, we need to educate ourselves and be aware of those shitholes like Sinema who will run as Democrats but are really just grifters on the make once they get elected.
Research carefully who is funding any candidate, and be comfortable with that info b4 you vote. Though overall Dems are mostly reputable good people, there are a few bad apples in any basket.
#GOTV2022
#VOTEBLUE2022
Stealing it!!
and still do nothing so they haven't earned our votes. Numbers, majorities, how the government works -- a mystery!
