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Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:19 PM Jun 2022

I don't think Republicans have a clue..Even a tiny clue about women's rights issues.

...My view is women's issues including abortion, will become the single most important issue in November's
election. (unlike any other issue) When women turn out in November to oust those against women's rights, (any
kind of rights) the Republicans will go down very hard. Since Republicans, and some of their followers, support this court
decision, the Republicans will lose a whole lot of seats in the House and some in the Senate.
...Seventy percent are in favor of woman's rights on this issue, and 70% is a huge number. Come November these
people will find out. Republicans who support the court on this issue will find out in November

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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
3. They are convinced they don't need to worry that.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jun 2022

We should worry about why. They believe the system is rigged enough they can force their minority views/policies on the rest of us with impunity. So far they’ve been right. They are gerrymandering and suppressing the vote and trying to change rules so Republicans can just appoint their own slates of electors if they don’t like the outcome. There have been more of us than them for decades. That matters, but it’s not enough unless we do structural things to make sure that actually matters.

Irish_Dem

(47,026 posts)
5. Yes they clearly think that the system is rigged in their favor.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:29 PM
Jun 2022

They are forcing white male christian minority rule.

The system has been corrupted.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
11. Because it IS rigged in their favor
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:16 AM
Jun 2022

21 states with fewer total people than California have 42 Senate seats.

The Supreme Court rulings represent the tyranny of the minority

snip..........

These are issues on which public opinion is lopsidedly in favor on what, for want of a better word, we might call the “liberal” side. Following the Uvalde, Tex., shooting, a recent poll showed that 65 percent of Americans want stricter gun controls; only 28 percent are opposed. Public opinion is just as clear on abortion: Fifty-four percent of Americans want to preserve Roe v. Wade and only 28 percent want to overturn it. Fifty-eight percent want abortion to be legal in most or all cases.

Yet the Supreme Court’s hard-right majority just overruled a New York law that made it difficult to get a permit to carry a gun, while upholding a Mississippi law that banned all abortions after 15 weeks. This represents a dramatic expansion of gun rights and an equally dramatic curtailment of abortion rights.


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Conservatives can plausibly argue that liberal justices invented a constitutional right to abortion, but how is that different from what conservative justices have done in inventing an individual right to carry guns that is also nowhere to be found in the Constitution? The Supreme Court did not recognize an individual right to bear arms until 2008 — 217 years after the Second Amendment was enacted expressly to protect “well-regulated” state militia. The Second Amendment hasn’t changed over the centuries, but the composition of the court has.

The majority conveniently favors state’s rights on abortion but not on guns. It is obvious that the conservative justices (who are presumably antiabortion rights and pro-gun rights) are simply enacting their personal preferences, just as liberal justices (who are presumably pro-choice and pro-gun control) do.

So, if the Supreme Court is going to be a forum for legislating, shouldn’t it respect the views of two-thirds of the country? But our perverse political system has allowed a militant, right-wing minority to hijack the law. As an Economist correspondent points out, “5 of the 6 conservative Supreme Court justices were appointed by a Republican Senate majority that won fewer votes than the Democrats” and “3 of the 6 were nominated by a president who also won a minority of the popular vote.”


More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/25/supreme-court-rulings-abortion-roe-guns-represent-minority-tyranny/

Irish_Dem

(47,026 posts)
4. We are like the women Kavanaugh raped. Just objects, not important, we are nothing to them.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jun 2022

They don't care enough to try to understand.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
6. I think they miscalculated.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:35 PM
Jun 2022

First, I am beginning to conclude that this ruling will somehow be short lived. I think codification is on the horizon. There is simply no way the American people are going to put up with this Christian Fascist bullshit, and that includes the millions and millions of Christians who are not nut jobs.

Secondly, I don’t think republicans had any idea how utterly enraged women, and also men, would be at this outrage.

We will see in November. But my belief is that the midterms are going to inflict massive pain on republicans.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
7. how many conservative men
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:37 PM
Jun 2022

think it's cool that Brett fucking Kavanaugh has more say in a pregnancy than they or their wife does

most conservatives I know are NOT rabidly anti-choice

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
8. This takes away a person's, a couple's, a family's agency over their own lives.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:50 PM
Jun 2022

It’s 2022. People are different now. It isn’t the mid -century when people were more intimidated by authority. I truly do not think the American people will permit this kind of control over their lives to be taken away. And that includes republicans who suddenly will fear for women in their own families.

The republicans are going to pay a heavy price for this. I think the democrats are going to win races they may otherwise have lost, all the way down to state legislatures. Roe will be restored and the republicans will have nothing.

And that will be a very good thing.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
10. Yes, great idea, "The republicans are going to pay a heavy price for this." Total truth!!
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:10 AM
Jun 2022

Come November we will all see the truth.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
9. There are so many cliches about why overturning roe b Wade won't work
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 12:56 AM
Jun 2022

Taking away a right is so much harder than never making it a right. Throw in that business doesn’t like change. It creates risks that cause uncertainty in the market place.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
13. Patriarchy and Misogyny is the prevailing factor, it's not they don't have a clue, it's they don't
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:41 AM
Jun 2022

effin care about Women's Rights issues. Add to that Christo-Fascists-White Supremacy is the underlying motivating factor. And it happens to be the tool to bolster political ambitions, winning support from like minded Christo-Fascists-White Supremacists voters.

They win in gerrymandered districts, corrupt State Secretaries and County and State Elections officials, which is why they can ignore the views of the majority of Women voters who are pro-choice.

In my opinion Christo Fascists White Supremacists who are determined to subjugate women in bondage in order to preserve the "white race" is exceedingly stupid, in that banning abortions will not solve the problem of a diminishing white population, when the ban applies to women of color as well. Not sure they understand basic math in that regard.





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